History in the making in more ways than one (Updated 2X)

Okay in keeping with the title of the post I will say I’m happy we are moving toward a world where these things will someday not matter. The Democrats are officially the first major party to nominate an African American for POTUS and this will go down in the history books for that reason! Congrats to African Americans, the Democratic Party and all Americans for that! Hopefully we will soon be at a point where this becomes so commonplace it is a non-issue. A nation that values it’s people based on their character and their contributions not their race, religion or gender.

Now on to the OTHER reasons this election cycle will go down in history some of which are not nearly as noble or celebratory. What am I talking about you might be asking?

This election cycle will definitely go down in the history books as the year when the Democrats moved as far away from the concept of democracy as they possibly could without actually changing the party name to Kommies for Amerrikka! The tactics used in this primary season were straight from the GOP playbook with one major exception.

The GOP has a rule: Never use dirty tactics against other Republicans. Against the other side it is expected, even encouraged. By all means use every dirty, underhanded, manipulative and fear-maongering tactic at your disposal against the “enemy” whether they be Dems or Independants, Libertarians or The Green Party. Mission seek and destroy! But never, nver, ever use those tactics to attack a fellow Republican!

This year during the primary season we saw caucus manipulation  (really in many instances it was out-right cheating, coercion by intimidation and the use of learned and practiced “shout ‘em down” thug tactics),  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGZFgMNM-UU   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXNqFQmGxDU&feature=related 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XFvq5XMk8&feature=related 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnclKiHwatw&feature=related 

Voter Registration Fraud ACORN and CSI (Volunteers were in some cases filling out registration sheets and forms with random names from the phone book or just made up to insure they got paid. Apparently they were paid according to quotas as in per X amount of registrations. Brilliance I tell ya’!), http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/20/money-laundering-scandal/  http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/22/acorn-%e2%80%93-csi-%e2%80%93-obama-someone-else-noticed/

Race-bating including portraying the only Two-Term Democratic President in the last 40 years and someone who has done more for racial equality and the black community than The One ever has or will as a racist. This tactic was used, falsley, against Bill and Hillary Clinton and anyone who supported either one of them or anyone who did not support Barrack Obama. The smearing of good Democrats with proven records of fighting good causes and striving for equality and a better life for all Americans was done not by Republicans as we are used to but by our fellow Democrats who used this as a club to beat the competition with.

All through the primaries we were deluged with Clinton hate and smears against the former Clinton Administration all the while being told that it was Hillary and Bill who were “smearing and fear-mongering”. They went on and on about things like the supposed “tarnishing” of the party by the Monica scandal and the “anything to win” tactics they accused the Clinton campaign of all the while trying very hard to smear and erase all the truly good things that were accomplished in the 90’s.

You know things like eliminating a huge deficit and leaving an actual surplus. That in itself was an unprecedented achievement. Things like improvements to our educational system, programs for families with young children and the pride we felt about our reputation in the world.

I could go on for quite a while on the things that the Clinton Administration did for our country. Things that sadly have been squandered and left by the side of the road like unwanted trash by the current administration. People had jobs, were able to pay their bills and buy homes.

Back to the race baiting here’s the real kicker. No matter what criticism was made about Obama it was all immediately branded as racist. He’s inexperienced - Racist, He’s an elitist - Racist, Tire gages won’t solve the energy crisis and bring down gas prices - Racist, not qualified - Racist, Rezco, Wright, Farrakkan, Auchi - all Racist claims according to camp Obama. FISA, Cheney’s Energy bill and his stance on the Born Alive Act - Racist. In fact by now you should be able to see a pattern here.

According to the Obama camp and the ”powers that be” (DNC Leadership) any and all criticism of The One is deemed Racist and politicly incorrect regardless of whether or not it’s true. Got it? He’s PERFECT! Anyone who says otherwise is… you guessed it, racist. Did you get the memo folks?

From: DNC

To: Voters

There is no reason to vote against or refuse to support Obama that is not motivated by racism and bigotry. End of story. This is the official party line and is the ONLY sanctioned response. Please keep in mind that we are the PROGRESSIVE party and as such NO DISSENT will be tolerated! Party members choosing to ignore this edict will be subject to threats, intimidation and possibly the stripping of credentials as well as expulsion from the party.

Sincerely,

Howie, Nancy, Harry and Donna

P.S. Don’t forget to donate!

Okay, okay! So it’s not a real memo but it could very well have been and it’s definitely been implied.

Meanwhile it was never said but always understood that these same rules did not apply to the distinguished Senator from New York. In fact it was open season on Hillary Clinton, former President Clinton and the legacy left by his administration. Camp Obama tried with all their might to re-write the hisory of the 90’s as a hard and terrible time fraught with shame, scandal and poverty.

Well folks as a person who was actually old enough to be paying my own bills in the 90’s I can tell you that NONE of that was true. There were plenty of jobs, the banks were not going under every other day, people could afford to purchase homes for their families and even afford to send those families to college. Our country was actually respected as a leader in Democracy and Diplomacy. Something Obama has no clue about.

That’s why it hasn’t stuck. Try as they might to paint the Clintons with a terrible legacy of a failed economy and national history the facts speak otherwise. LOUDLY!

Here’s is another reason this will go down in the history books. This is the first election to my knowledge where Democrats not only attacked fellow Dems but decreed any and all dissent must be squashed by any means necessary. Long time Democratic websites and blogs began ceremoniously kicking out members who expressed displeasure with the candidate de’ jour. Blogs were spam bombed in coordinated attacks that the attackers actually bragged about on their own sites.

Even the normal political attack ads that we typicaly see every election year have been not just scrutinized but demonized and even now camp Obama is threatening legal action against the donors of a 527 group for making an ad that frankly, tells the truth about The One’s close relationship with one William Ayers. (Remember Obama said he was just some guy in his neighborhood?) In fact Obama’s first political campaign was launched from the very same William Ayers’ home in Chicago!

That’s right he wants to put the people who made the ad and those who contributed money to the group behind bars for daring to speak against The One, for speaking the truth!

Here is the first letter to the station managers:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/aiplettertostations.pdf

Here’s a post about the entire fiasco:

http://www.dequalss.com/wp/2008/08/the-baby-is-crying-again/

Then apparently they sent a second letter actually threatening legal action against the stations airing the ad, the group who made it and the donors who contributed. I’m trying to find the link to the second letter. I should know to save these things! If anyone else has a link please post it and I’ll add it in.

Here it is.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MmUwOTllNmMzZDNlMTljMGFmY2JkZTllYmQyOTY0ODY=

And finally the rebuttal from the groups legal advisors:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/aip-response.pdf

My how progressive and liberal of the Obama people! How Democratic! I’m so glad they believe in free speech and all!

Thanks to Obamabi.com for the video.

Seriously folks these people are far worse than even the Republicans. Democrats do not quell dissent! They do not quash free speech and they do not use coercion, threats and propaganda techniques to control and distort messages!

At least REAL Democrats don’t! Obamacrats? Well that’s another story! These people have more in common with Hitler and Stalin than FDR or JFK. They would never have tried to shut people up from their own party and they never would have stood for treating other people, much less Democrats, with anything less than the respect any American deserves!

Shame on Barrack Obama and his followers for this will surely go down in the history books as the time when our party lost it’s way and turned to facism rather than using actual principals, facts and decency to argue their case!

There’s always more but I’m going to stop for now.

 

CQ

A few thoughts I want to share

Well I managed to sit through Michelle’s speech last night and a bit more of the proceedings as well though I had to miss some of it due to well, life. I think James Carville was right on the money when he said there was no message.

Sure they tried to make it all about humanizing the Obamas and how they supposedly personally suffered so greatly to get where they are. (Eyes rolling) I don’t doubt they are real, human beings but I hardly believe their “single mom and working class grandparents raised Barrack” line of crap. Grandma was VP of the bank, Gramps managed a big furniture store, they sent him to private schools then Harvard for cying out loud! Hardly qualifies as typical working class roots.

What I did notice was the body language during Michelle’s speech. It was not warm, open or inviting but was more along the lines of her proffession. It seemed far more like an attorney making her closing arguments than a potential first lady welcoming Americans into her world. Maybe it’s a carry over from her proffession. Maybe it was intentional and she really was making a closing argument. They did call her “The Closer”.

She didn’t do it for me though. I can’t be argued into something I don’t believe in. Perry Mason himself would not change my mind or those of many disenchanted voters.

Also loved all the talking heads and delegates saying how Obama needs to have some actual policies and solutions to woo voters now and get his head out of the clouds. You know get real and talk to the common folk. I couldn’t help being reminded of my still un-finished

http://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/hansel-and-gretel-tale-of-the-lost-children-a-primary-parody-pt-1-4/ 

story about the primaries and how part of the theme was that Gretel wanted to lead the children home with the proven path of policies and solutions that she had left for them on thier way into the forest. Got quite a chuckle out of that one! I’ll be writing the final chapter after the convention but I already know one line that will ring out loud and clear.

No Barrack Hansel, it’s not about you. It’s about the children and getting them home safely!

Here is a quote from an email my mother sent me yesterday. I don’t know where it came from originally if someone does please let me know.

Always remember: Today’s mighty oak is simply
yesterday’s nut that held its ground . . .

Appropriate no? Take heart PUMAS! Patriots! Hold steady and we WILL stand tall and proud like the mighty oak!

As an aside to those who insist that I have to post their comments here’s all I can say. WHAAAAA! TOOO BAD! I will not publish any remarks that are nothing more than Hillary Hate and threats, shaming and calling me names won’t sway me one bit. I have never gone to Pro-Obama blogs and made comments period let alone the kind of crap they do on every Pro-Hillary blog or forum that they can find. I will not post anything with racist or porn links and I will not be changing that policy no matter how many times you scream censorship. It’s MY blog I post what I choose. End of story.

I do post comments from people with diffent opinions than my own just not nasty, hateful comments from anybody. ‘Nuff said!

 

CQ

Listen Up! This is NOT about Hillary Clinton! It’s about Barrack Obama!

I’m so tired of all the sore loser and bitter dead-ender comments out there. They want to spin this party implosion as being all about Hillary Clinton’s supporters being “spiteful”.

I know you’ve seen it. It’s everywhere. According to these commenters we are voting against Obama only to spite him because he “won” and Hill “lost”. I guess they got tired of calling us racists and republicans. Maybe it was getting old and not sticking. Now they’re on a “spoiled brat, spiteful, sore loser, bitter, old hag” stchick.

When will these people ever figure out that name calling, guilt trips, scare tactics, threats and intimidation is NOT the way to win votes or recruit support? Did they ever hear the phrase “You will catch more flies with honey than vinegar.”? Guess not.

Here’s the truth. Are we pissed off that Hillary Clinton the distinguished Senator from New York, former First lady of the USA and the best candidate to come along in years is not our party’s nominee? Damn right we are! Are we voting against and refusing to support Obama soley because of that anger and dissapointment? Hell NO!

There may be a few Clinton supporters who would disagree with me and say it’s their only reason but truthfully there are very few who feel that way. Sure we’re all bummed but I was bummed when Kerry won the nomination in 2004 as I have been bummed many other times but I still voted for him.

Recently I had some coment made asking me whether I would have voted for George Bush out of spite if it had been Hillary who lost the nomination to Kerry. Answer? NO and Hell NO! He wasn’t my choice and I didn’t like it but I voted for him. Why? I trusted him more than I would ever trust Bush. I didn’t like him that much but he was by far the lesser of two evils in that situation. This is NOT the case in this election cycle. Far from it in fact.

People who try to tell me that Obama’s policies are “nearly identical” might as well save their breath because it’s bullshit. His policies, are a parade of ever changing pandering that even some of my far left friends who supported him are having a hard time keeping up with. Whatever they are today you can rest assured they will be different tomorrow or as soon as it becomes politically expedient that he change them. Again.

Pure and simple, straight from this horse’s mouth, so to speak. We will not vote for him because he is not the right person for the job.  He is not even close. No choice for VP, not even Hillary would have ever made up for that. We don’t think he’s up for the job and more important than that we DO NOT TRUST HIM!

He has proven to be naive at best in his reaction to the current Russia/Georgia conflict as well as incompetent on almost every other major issue. Were he to become the POTUS it is my sincere belief that the country would be in complete economic chaos within the first year of his administration.

Then we have his ideas on foriegn policy (again naive and foolish), National Health Insurance (don’t even get me started on this one) and taxes (raising the Capital Gains Tax has been tried before and proved ineffective and unsucessfull).

The we have the issues of his dangerous associations and all the endorsements from people like Louis Farrakan, NOI, Black Panthers, Hamas, Kim Jong Il, Osama bin Laden. He may not have asked for those endorsments but the fact that people like this support and endorse him is very telling indeed.

Let’s see Rezco (set to be sentenced a week before the November election), Ayers (flag burning, fire bombing, self admitted terrorist who wishes they had done more), Auchi, Odinga, ACORN, Rev. Wright (God Damn America Rev. Wright) and the list goes on and on and on. Why is this guy associated with so many radical, terrorist types? Not to mention convicted criminals. How come they all seem to love Obama so much? Why do they flock to him in droves? You think maybe they recognize a kindred spirit?

To the person or persons who keep sending me comments threatening me and telling me to shut the fuck up: Dream on ! I will not shut up! If it was only that easy! In the words of the famous Tweety Bird “You don’t know me vewy well now do you?” Oh, and BTW, I am self employed so there goes that threat too! Tough day for you huh?

 

CQ

Questions Obama Supporters Refuse to Answer

OK this will have to be quick as I’m already past my me-time limit for this morning!

I want to address two points in this post. Two points that BO supporters seem to keep ignoring but keep popping up. Pesky issues anyway!

As anyone who reads this blog can tell I have several problems with Barrack Obama and voting for him is something I don’t plan on ever adding to my to-do list.

I also post on several other blogs and forums and have argued passionately with many, many BO supporters. Some I call Obamabots, some are just Supporters and there are some I call Converts (former Clinton supporters who have decided to support Obama as is their right) the thing is that if you ask them about these two issues none will respond to the first and only converts will respond to the other.

Issue 1.  The intimidation tactics, the threats and the cyber harassment of Clinton supporters and anyone else who is not an Obama supporter. These things are real. They have been documented by many reliable sources. They are way above and beyond the pale when it comes to trying to persuede others to switch to Obama or shut up!

There are so many instances of people having their private information published, being impersonated by Obama supporters (mostly the Bot type), threats to their jobs and businesses, hacking of blogs and websites, coordinated attacks to shut down sites that oppose The One and even threats of actual physical harm and in some cases threats of death, all for not supporting their candidate and daring to speak or write openly about it.

As I said these incidents are many and well documented yet you will not find a supporter from any of the three groups I mentioned that will respond to questions and outrage over this. They simply ignore it and attack on another front.

I guess either they are involved (Bots), they are in denial (the Supporters and the Converts) or some may simply refuse to believe it because they are incredibly naive or ill-informed.

They flat out refuse to address the subject at all unless you are dealing with a particularly nasty bot and then they will simply turn up the heat and threaten you some more.

Question directed at the Supporters and the Converts. Why if your guy is so great and such a good choice would these kind of tactics be permitted let alone needed? if he’s such a great choice why do some people think they need to force him on us? if he was so great wouldn’t we all be jumping on the bandwagon?

Why will they not talk about this? Answer. It would sink him fast if the truth about this came out in the main stream media. To address it would be to admit it and they simply will not do that.

That means to me that getting the truth out about this is a high priority task. People should know who they’re really dealing with and the kinds of things he will do or allow his followers to do to get his way.

Issue 2.  Why is it that we hear and read so much from all three groups of followers (Bots, Supporters and Converts) that we must not be “real” or “good” democrats or even Americans if we speak against a fellow dem? I have seen and heard many times that we are committing some sort of crime or sin for critiquing a candidate for POTUS! Yes I have actually seen people say it is a crime to speak against a candidate. Some of those comments ironicly came from people who are not even Americans but live in foriegn countries by their own admision. So why do they get to say I am or am not a good democrat or American? They don’t! If you aren’t an American your opinion in the election does not matter one bit in reality.

Funny thing is these same people screaming “How dare you speak against a candidate!” will in the very same hot, baited, breath will go no and on, for hours sometimes, about Hillary and Bill Clinton being the axis of evil and the list of hateful crap they spew is almost endless and most of it untrue.

So it’s a sin or a crime to speak against a candidate for POTUS but to speak against Hillary Clinton is OK? Was she not also a candidate for the same position? Not only was she a candidate she is also a distinguished, accomplished (not to mention loved) Senator from New York AND a former First Lady!

Apparently it’s ok to speak against her though. I mean you can’t speak against a candidate unless it’s Hillary or John McCain. I notice the “Don’t speak against a candidate” rule doesn’t apply to him either.

So let’s get this straight. You cannot speak against Obama because he’s a candidate for POTUS and to do so would be some sort of crime or horrible sin and as a candidate he must be treated with utmost respect, not to mention kid gloves! He should be given that as a matter of respect because he’s a candidate.

On the other hand Hillary Clinton a candidate for the same office, a Senator with a record of accomplishments and a former First lady of the US does apparently NOT deserve or get the same respect.

John McCain a candidate for the same office, a former war hero and a Senator with a record of accomplishments does not deserve or get the same respect.

So, have we got that right? In other words it’s all BULLSHIT! Barrack Obama does not magicly qualify, deserve nor is he entitled to this privilaged status as the most “respected” one! If you have to respect one candidate as such and as a Senator WTF are they thinking that the other candidates (including our former First Lady) are free game?

Who does he think he is anyway? God? Far as I know the only “rule” about not speaking against anyone that is real and concrete is in the Bible where it says “Thou shalt not Blaspheme!” I dont think they were talking about Obama! (Though many of his followers would most likely disagree. He is The One after all!) Puke Alert!

That’s really leveling the playing field there Barky! Yeah! Typical Obama hypocracy! Give The One the advantage since he obviously is so out matched I guess they’re trying to make up for his shortcomings by giving him a “handicap”.

I guess since he is so inept the powers that be (Gag) feel it’s only fair to handcuff his opponents’ supporters with the ‘ol “You can’t say that!” crap! Fair? Level? Right? NOT EVEN CLOSE!

One can’t help but observe that Clinton and McCain supporters are NEVER heard claiming people do not have the right to say whatever they choose to. It’s called Free speech and both of those polticians know a little bit about that.

Well guess what folks this is still America and last time I checked it is not against the law to speak against a candidate. Nor is there a law that says Barky must not be spoken ill of. Free country! Free Speech! Do your homework Obama supporters! Look it up! No such “protection” exists. Not for your Messiah. Not for anyone.

Oh Fuck! Oh, Dear! They really don’t teach Civics in school anymore do they?

 

CQ

“Thug Tactics” from Clinton Supporters as Claimed by Media Idiots and Obama Supporters

If you have not yet read this I will warn you! Do not read while you are drinking or eating as it may cause you to choke, spit your beverage onto your keyboard or puke!  Here you go:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/aug/19/democratic-delegates-reveal-thug-tactics-hillary-s/?feedback=1#comments

“It’s downright nasty,” said Memphis superdelegate and City Council member Myron Lowery, who has shared dozens of the messages he’s received with The Commercial Appeal.

“I think it’s divisive for the ‘Support Hillary’ campaign to continue at this time. She made the decision to fully support Mr. Obama,” said Lowery. “I don’t know why they’re not taking their cue from Hillary and falling in line.”

Lowery said he does not believe Clinton herself is behind the effort, but that it’s “her supporters, acting on their own because they’re proud of what they have done for her.”

Damn straight we’re proud of what we’ve done for her! We’ve had to fight tooth and nail for her to get the traditional roll call vote that every other candidate has always been given as a matter of common practice. We’ve had to fight for every tiny bit of respect the Obama campaign and supporters have grudgingly paid her and her historic campaign.

We are proud of our candidate and our efforts for her. So what? Since when is that a crime? 

 BTW if I hear one more democratic official ask why we don’t just “fall in line” I may start a “mail your shit to the idiots” campaign! Wouldn’t that be fun! OK! I promise not to crap into an envelope and mail it if only for the sake of the poor postal workers who would have to deliver it but you see where I’m coming from. (No fun! No fun at all!)

Most of the messages Lowery has received from across the country come from Hillary supporters making the case that she won more voters’ votes in the primaries, she won bigger states, that Obama won states that won’t vote Democratic in November and that she is the only “elect-able” Democrat.

“Obama could not ‘seal the deal’ with voters during the primaries,” said one message Lowery received Tuesday from a Sacha Millstone, a Colorado delegate to next week’s convention. “The more voters got to know him, the more voters chose Hillary Clinton…

“Democrats must offer voters the candidate with the best chance of winning in November, the experienced candidate who understands the problems we face and the solutions we need — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

Hmmmm…so these are the “Thug tactics” the article was complaining about. So I take it voting for the person you think is the best for the job and asking for the delegates to vote according to the votes that were cast is thuggery. Apparently it is according to this author.

I suppose that Bartholomew Sullivan, the author of this utterly and completely biased piece of so called journalism thinks that these “Thug Tactics” he talks about are worse than the intimidation, harassment, threats to people’s businesses, reputations and physical well being pale in comparison? The tendencies of Obama supporters to portray all dissenters as “Racists” and “Closet Republicans” as well as bitter, typical, white, old, female, bitter, dead-enders, holdouts, menopausal hysterics is not thuggish at all?

I guess he thinks that Obama supporters who make threats and use other people’s screennames and email addresses to make false comments on sites and sign people up for MyBarrackObama blog accounts without their knowledge or consent is not underhanded in any way either? How about when they try 50 - 75 times per day to change a Hillary supporter’s password on a site that they post at? (Does the word Hack mean anything?) Or when they coordinate attacks on anti-Obama blogs and forums causing them to shut down, get locked or simply cause an error message I guess that’s supposed to be “friendly and civil”?

In a PUMA (which stands for “party unity my ass” to some but for the official organization it stands for People United Means Action) statement sent to Lowery last Friday, the group wrote that it was “ashamed of the strong-arming, political threats and thinly-veiled ’suggestions’ that have been sent to Democratic delegates and superdelegates’ during this primary season. These ‘thug’ tactics appear to be increasing as Senator Obama begins the downward slide in the polls and Senator Clinton’s support grows.”

Michael Gordon of Parker City, Ind., wrote Lowery Tuesday as representative of PUMA, noting that the Obama campaign spent $56 million in July “only to lose ground to (John) McCain…

“Where Obama once got a free pass on such despicable relationships with anti-American people such as Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Soros, Pfleger, Farakkhan — the American voters are beginning to realize what a questionable and shady past this man has led,” Gordon writes.

Wow! How thuggish! They actually expect the DNC to consider whether or not this guy can get elected? I mean that is so not the point right? I mean how bad of us PUMAS to point out the obvious! Like how he’s not polling well when you consider it should be a slam dunk for Dems this year.

Wow! That’s like, so racist and MEAN! I mean, like who cares if he’s more fake and crooked than Nixon and more wishy washy than Carter? Right? It’s definitely racist to pick the person who could actually win right?

This is all about Obama and getting an African American the nomination so we can say we’re the most progressive right? Winning in November is, after all, not the important thing right? ( OMG even when I’m trying to spoof them I almost puke from writing those words!)

The good news as I see it is the word is getting out and that this idiot just gave PUMAS more free publicity! Thanks Bartholomew Sullivan! We need all the publicity we can get! I guess we should have pissed off the Kool-Ade drinkers sooner!

I recently ran into an old on-line friend in another forum that is totally unrelated to politics. We have a lot in common. We’re both former residents of the same “fly-over” state, both feel strongly about many of the same issues, especially on issues regarding children, women, human rights, protecting our environment and many other things.  She recently graduated college, got a new, exciting job and moved to another state.

I was thrilled to hear from her after such a long time. She posted something about Veep-stakes and I responded. (It’s not a political forum but people still do mention politics occasionaly.)

The response I got back stunned and disspaionted me. Same ‘ol, same ‘ol lines we get from the Obamabots as well as the supposed “converts” after the primaries.

UPDATED: i REMOVED THE COMMENTS FROM MY cONVERT FRIEND AT HER REQUEST. hOWEVER I WILL NOT BE REMOVING MY COMMENTS AS I FEEL THEY ARE MY OPINONS AND ARE IN LINE WITH THE GENERAL FEELING OF THE POST.

I guess we all know friends and family who feel this way but I still find it rather sad that they cannot look at the bigger picture here. 1. Who can actually win. 2. Country before party. 3. This guy is a fruad and has not been vetted. Below is my response to her. I tried not to be too harsh as I really do value her friendship and intellect.

XXX (Name deleted by CQ);

I read your response yesterday and to be honest I had to think about it before I replied.

I’m really saddened that you feel Clinton lost because she “ran a crummy campaign” as I think she ran the only campaign she could. IE; One with both hands tied behind her back, If she had really gone after Obama on the things that will sink him, she would have been crucified and hung out to dry by the party for attacking a fellow dem on such things.

They would rather ignore those things and wait for the repubs to jump on them instead of actually vetting the candidate ahead of time.

We will have to agree to disagree because I don’t believe that Hillary ran a crummy campaign or that she lost fair and square and besides that this is about far more than Hillary. We’re (PUMAS) still upset that the party totally screwed Michigan and Florida and then they gave uncommitted votes to a guy who’s name was not even on the ballot not to mention the 4 delegates that were taken from Clinton that were earned based on actual votes counted for Clinton because the wanted to reflect the will of the voters who did not do thier duty and get off their asses to actually vote. In my recollection the fair reflection rule was meant to reflect the will of the voters not those who didn’t vote.

More than even that is the fact the DNC leadership has been deeply biased from day one. Every time he lost big (West Virginia anybody? He got handed his ass.) a parade of supers came out to bolster him and in particular Edwards the big fraud who went on about family values and poor, working class folks and said he would not endorse before the end of the primaries came out immediately after WV to say the voters had spoken and so had he. Yes the voters spoke alright 46 point win for your opponent does not translate into voter support of your candidacy.

The thing that pisses me off most is the dismissiveness from Obama and his supporters as if not counting votes as cast is perfectly allright this year even though we were all screaming about it the last two elections. I guess it’s ok as long as it’s dems suppressing the vote.

Then we have the assumption that there are only a few holdouts and they’re mostly older, white, bitter women. I know for a fact there are a lot more than a few of us who will not vote for Barky and I also know that many of us are not gerriatric, menopausal and on our last, bitter, racist legs. It really pisses me off that half the party is being dismissed and dissed this way and they expect us to “come around”. Give me a break! If they were to actually try treating Hill’s supporters with any measure of respect they might have half a chance.

I actually thought very highly of the senator before this race started and I saw how he treated not only Hill and her supporters but the disdain he has for anyone who dares to question him. The conclusion put out by his camp that any and all critics are absolutely racist as they don’t believe anyone could possibly have any other reason to not vote for him. This is an insult!

Turn it around and ask an Obama supporter if they made their decision soley based on race see how offended they get. It’s just as stupid to believe on either side. Are there people who will vote or not vote Obama based soley on race? YES on BOTH sides. Does that mean everybody that will/won’t vote for him is doing so based soley on race? OF COURSE NOT!

I have been threatened, had my personal info published on the net (outed if you will),had horrible emails and comments made in my name by Obama supporters impersonating me, I have had them contact the Board of Realtors in my state and try to defame me, they have threatened my business, contacted proffessional organizations in my name and many other atrocities simply because I don’t agree with and will not vote for Obama. His thugs are more than enough reason for me.

So XXX (name deleted by CQ), I respect you and your opinion as well as your right to hold one different from my own but I respectfully disagree with your assesment.

I totaly agree about him picking a female VP that is not Hillary will be political suicide though and I would hope that he knows it too.

All I can say is this:
It ain’t over until it’s over! I promise if I turn out to be right about the convention or November I will do my best not to say I told you so!

Also people who claim Hill is doing this because she’s power-hungry or feels entitled are wrong. She is doing this as are many of us because we feel strongly that country comes before party and obama is a threat to both. She is doing everything she can to try and save the party and the country.

I do not want McCain either but if it is close in my state I may have to vote republican for the first time in my life because I feel that strongly that Obama must be defeated for America’s sake.

CQ

Something tells me she won’t be happy with my response any more than I was with hers but I have to honest about my feelings. I don’t believe in fake, pandering quasi-agreement. EDITED BY CQ TO ADD SHE WASN’T HAPPY ABOUT IT AT ALL AND AS YOU CAN SEE SHE ASKED TO HAVE HER COMMENTS REMOVED. i HAVE DONE SO. HOPEFULLY SHE AND I CAN REMAIN FRIEND BUT IF SHE NO LONGER WANTS TO THEN I WILL CONSIDER IT A LOSS BUT HER DECISION NOT MINE.

Discuss.

CQ

Who indeed??

Very interesting post on   http://obambi.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/payoffmedia/ makes one wonder if this is all bought and paid for. As in The One must have the best agent money can buy. Hollywood probably hand picked for him. If anybody knows how to fool the public it’s Hollywood right? It’s not to far a stretch to specualte this after all The One was taking acting lessons from George Clooney too.

Listen I have nothing against Hollywood in general. I like that they produce entertainment even if I don’t like everything produced. I simply excersise my right to free choice and change the channel/DVD/CD or whatever. Problem solved. Crisis averted.  I’m not one  who believes in restricting artists just what I choose to view/hear ect. (I confess I really, really wish the Reality TV folks would just get their own channel so I didn’t have to surf past them but I digress.)

I’m also not one who believes in restricting what news does/does not get reported with a few exceptions for National Security and such. I don’t think it’s smart to report that you are in such and such place with the troops getting ready to attack …or such and such precautions have been taken to prevent access from terrorists. You know I understand we have to censor things like that to protect ourselves but should that extend to protecting political candidates from scandals of their own making? Isn’t that helping to create a false image? Is that even ethical by any standard of journalism?

Yes, I do want to know if someone paid the media to keep the Edwards fiasco under wraps. I want to know if someone is being paid NOT to vet Obama in a serious manner. Are the Media being paid to keep the Larry Sinclair story under wraps? How about the Odinga, Rezco, Auchi and Ayers stories? George Soros’ real connections to Obama and the coup of the Democratic Party? How about ACORN and the falsified voter registration scandal? Um…. the (fake) birth certificate?

We know that the media has colluded with the DNC in protecting The One for their own reasons. The question is what are those reasons and/or are they related in any way to money and/or special considerations?

We know that most of the media refuses to report that the PUMA and JSND movement is real, headed by real democrats who are fed up not closet republicans and that they are gaining any traction. They are for the most part participating in the DNC created myth that the party is unified. Paid for?

How about the latest article from the “Seriously You’re Still Calling Yourselves A News Network?” folks at CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/12/clinton/index.html

But it would be the first time in the modern era of presidential primaries that a losing candidate has so visibly endorsed an opponent so many months before the convention, and then gone on to have his or her name placed in nomination.

According to this phony bit we are supposed to imagine that it is not customary to have a traditional roll call vote at the Democratic Convention. No, of couse it’s not! That’s why it’s always refered to as TRADITIONAL. Because it’s not CUSTOMARY right? Cheeeez and Crackers! Who is paying for this tripe might we ask? Who indeed?

This couldn’t possibly be a smoke screen to hide the fact that The One is afraid, yes VERY AFRAID of his former opponent could it?

CQ

Why voting for Obama may be racist

I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit lately. No matter who you are or what your reasons are for not supporting the presumptuous (and petulant) nominee if you express them in any way you will automatically be attacked and called all number of vile things and most of them contain the word racist.

You could go on for days about issues, policies, flip-flopping, electability, experience or rather lack thereof, accomplishments (again see lack thereof), Rezco, Wright, Auchi, Odinga, ACORN, and his reluctance, no more like his absolute refusal to answer any hard or meaningful questions as is and should be expected of any other candidate.

Any question that he does not like is met with an immediate charge of racism or McCain surrogacy, if not from The One himself then from someone in his camp. This then becomes a talking point and action plan in the pro-Obama blogisphere where any comment perceived as anti-Obama is gang attacked with similar disdain as if it makes the commenter beneath human merely for making it. Free speech is not something these people take seriously. In their opinion they are free to tell you what to speak.

I’ve decided that since they obviously cannot understand making a decision based on anything other than race that they must then base their own decisions based on race. I mean if that’s the only factor they think we could possibly use for our reasoning it seems they are really the ones who are focused on race.

Yes! I think that must be it! Obama supporters are all racists! They are only voting for him because he’s black! I mean if we are, as they claim, voting on race lines then they must be too! That must be how they know because it takes one to know one right? I mean I’m reasonably sure, make that positive, that they can’t read our minds to actually discern this reasoning.

It’s often said that people hate and go after in others the very thing they dislike about themselves.

Alright I guess that’s enough sarcasm and faulty thinking for one post! Hopefully it illuminates the stupidity and wrong thinking that makes people jump to conclusions without facts to back them up. IE: if you cannot read a person’s mind and see clearly the reasoning and opinions behind their decisions then don’t make judgements based on your own lack of knowledge or your own faulty opinions. Also if they blog or speak out about their decisions and reasoning perhaps you should actually see what they have to say before concluding it is based on race.

Obama supporters I ask you is your vote based on race? Is it or would it be fair to you to assume that it is? Can you not see the faulty logic there? 

The fact is that some people will not vote for him based on race and some people will vote for him for the same reason. I don’t believe for a minute that every voter bases decisions on that. Those that do, wrong as they are, do have a right to vote for or against whoever they want for whatever reason. It’s called the right to vote. It is constitutionally protected.  I don’t like racism or any isms. I don’t have a right to legislate people’s decisions in the voting booth though and neither do The Golden Idiot and his cult-followers. It’s personal choice and as such many personal opinions go into each individual vote. Not legislateable. Also it’s no body’s business unless the voter in question chooses to make it known.

Don’t get me wrong here. I am NOT sticking up for racists on either side of this debate (yes there is racism on BOTH sides). I am simply pointing out that should they chose to vote according to those kinds of narrow minded guidelines they are within their rights to do so. Obama and his supporters have no right to challenge why they vote as they do. Nor do they have a right to challenge why I will not vote for him let alone ignore the reasons I give and replace them with the standard, pat charge of racism.

It is this Thug Mentality that makes me even more determined to keep this arrogant, narcissistic Marxist out of office.He has already joined Dick Cheney and George W Bush in their quest to destroy our civil liberties and assault on our Constitution and according to some of his most ardent supporters we “will all pay a heavy price for daring to speak against Obama”. What’s next? Thought police? The bots already think they can tell what we are thinking next they will try to control our thought processes with mass hypnosis (commonly known as the Kool-Ade)!

I don’t drink Kool-Ade. Thanks but no thanks!

 

CQ

Oh, so much news! Where to start?

I guess first the post’s from Techdude & Judah Benjamin on texasdarlin.wordpress.com in regards to the apparently fraudulent Certificate of Live Birth that has been posted on the Fight the Smears site the One set up to supposedly depose his detractors. Interestingly enough this could be much more problematic for the Senator than the original alleged “smears” themselves.

Consider this if the “smears” are indeed proved true then this site they set up to fight them and the “proofs” claimed on it are in fact “smears” themselves. First of all the term “smears” is not by any means a technical or official term. What we are really talking about here cannot be simply brushed off as “smears”. These are misrepresentation of facts and in some cases , such as the COLB if it is in fact proven a forgery, a criminal fraud.

Think about it. I am not an idiot. I know there are people who lie on and off the web every day. I know there are people who lie about others and those who lie about what others have said about them. I also know that if you want to present yourself as honorable, trustworthy and qualified to lead the USA as President you should not lie period. Not about yourself and not about those who accuse you rightfully.

I’m no judge or jury but I know that although there is much argument about the forgery even those who disagree about whether it’s a complete fake or a fake created over an existing erased document seem to be in general agreement that regardless the document in question is indeed a fake. So the question is if he had nothing to hide and these were all “smears” then why did he present a forgery instead of the real document? What are we to think about this in regard to the other “smears” the One is fighting?

Should someone who presents forged documents and fights supposed ”smears” with lies be considered qualified, capable or morally acceptable for the office of POTUS? If you want a more in-depth report go to Texas Darlin’s site and explore away!

Next on the agenda the petition to impeach Senator Obama has been gaining signatures and apparently has been amended to add more charges. From what I read on the matter even Kenya has jumped on the bandwagon. They are a bit angry at the Senator for interfering in and speaking out against the then current government and in support of his cousin Railla Odinga. There has been much violence in Kenya since Odinga gained power and the US allied country blames in some ways Barrack Obama for interfering in their government and helping to get this current corrupt government in power. Plus they allege he misused his passport. For a much more detailed report on this check out citizenwells.wordpress.com Wells has more of the actual text and a link to the petition. Here is the post I’m talking about and please if you haven’t yet signed the petition DO SO NOW!

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/impeach-obama-petition-expel-obama-obama-kenya-2006-kenyan-government-protests-abuse-of-power-more-lies-and-deception/#comments

OK now for the next subject at hand. Some of you have been subjected, as have I, to the abuse and malice of The Mitch & Nan Show blog. A blog that’s entire purpose was to harass, intimidate, threaten and stalk Larry Sinclair and anyone who might possibly believe him, post comments to or visit his blogs.

I have written in the past on my blog about larry Sinclair and his claims that he had gay sex and engaged in the use of cocaine with Barrack Obama in 1999. This man has been subjected to all manor of abuse since making this claim and in fact the threats and interference in his life by others from M&N have made many even more convinced that Larry is indeed telling the truth. I don’t know for a fact one way or another. I was not there. The only people who do know for a fact are Larry Sinclair himself, Barrack Obama, the Limo Driver on the and anybody who the Good Senator may have told in order to gain their help with the cover-up.

As I said I do not know for a fact but it’s as obvious as the nose on your face that Obama has NOT SUED  and has not even posted a rebuttal on his Fight the Smears website. If Larry is lying why wouldn’t Obama sue him? If Larry is lying why are people like M&N so intent on shutting him up? To the point they have actually called law enforcement including the FBI to get Larry arrested, they have called the SSA (by their own written admission no less) to try and get his disability payments and medical coverage taken away from him?

Why would these people go to the trouble of orchastrating attacks on his blog hosts again and again to get his blog shut down and then brag in writing on their blog about having done so? M&N calim to be from France but they have been traced to Houston by some with more computer knowledge than me. They and those who post there and harrass from there use programs that mask their IP addresses so figuring out who they are and where they are is difficult at best. Why the ruse? If they are so sure they are right why hide behind a mask?

I’ll tell you why. They don’t want to be traced back because they know some of the things they have been doing are in fact illegal AND they probabaly are under strict orders not to let anyone find out who is really behind them and their agenda. Think about that one for a minute!

Well surprise, surprise what did I see yeaterday? The Mitch & Nan Show blog is shut down! Could it be that the hate and abuse they spew there finally caught up with them and the host actually shut them down?

According to Larry’s site, http://larrysinclair0926.com/ their host, Go Daddy.com, was served with a copyright infringement notice under the DMCA and they have been given notice to remove certain materials from it’s severers which are being used in direct violation of the law. Hmmmm so Go Daddy.com was served and now M&N are shut down. What conclusions can one draw from that bit of information?

I think it’s also important to note that go Daddy.com is also the web host for BarrackObama.com and other pro-Obama blogs some of which may also be involved in this situation. I’ll have to check out some of the opposition blogs and see if there are more of them shut down as a result of this.

All I can say is I won’t miss those assholes and their hate mail one bit. Funny it seemed to stop about the same time as their blog was shut down. Scared?

 

CQ

Bloggers being shut down linked to mybarrackobama.com users

This information is coming to light through the blogger’s network. I think it is extremely important that we get the word out about this. We are NOT saying that Barrack Obama himself is involved although we don’t know either way I would highly doubt it. I don’t think he would be so stupid as to be personally involved in this kind of thing.  Having said that what is being said is that at least three seperate IP’s linked to the Blogger accounts that were shut down by a coordinated spam flagging attack were traced back to mybarrackobama.com by law enforcement and are currently being investigated.

Citizen Wells has an excellent post on the matter:

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/obama-camp-stops-free-speech-democrat-party-left-wing-brown-shirts-nazi-germany-revisited-barackobamacom-fairness-doctrine-nancy-pelosi/#comment-3064

Here is another from bloggasm:

http://bloggasm.com/whos-responsible-for-shutting-down-a-number-of-anti-obama-blogspot-accounts#comment-77765

Finally here is a link to macsmind where the proof was uncovered:

http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/08/02/macsmind-hacking-update/#comment-47531

Truthfully I believe Senator Obama though he is not personally responsable, SHOULD DENOUNCE THIS KIND OF ABUSE OF THE INTERNET! I believe he should come out publicly and denounce this sort of behaviour and let people know it will not be tolerated on his official website. If he does not then he is by proxy condoning such behaviour!

This country was founded on the principals of freedom and justice for all. These freedoms include the right to free speech. If we have come to the point where free speech has become a luxury only to be enjoyed by those in power or those who can intimidate, harass, threaten and over-power the voices of the rest then we must act now to restore freedom before it’s too late!

It’s a very thin line these folks are walking. One blog, who shall not be named as I refuse to give them any more free publicity for thier disgusting site, makes no bones about the fact they feel they are free to post anything they want. I would agree with them to a point. That point, which they have gone way past, is where they feel they should be allowed this freedom but those who disagree with them are fodder for their jokes and their intimadation tactics, of which I myself have been subjected to and they include hateful and threatening posts, impersonating people I know in real life to send me threats and harassment. Impersonating me in other forums and blogs saying terrible things, claiming I will “never work again” (Funny since I am self employed. I don’t know who they think will fire me.)

They have called me a racist, a republican, bitter, xenophobic (This is really funny because the person posting that one seemed as though that word wuold be out of their normal vocabulary from the rest of the post.). They posted my personal information on their blog and all this because I visit the site of Larry Sinclair who they feel does not have a right to free speech.

As a matter of fact they are so against Larry Sinclair being allowed to express himself they have threatened his life, shut down his blogs with coordinated complaints and attacks, they have gone out of their way trying to have him arrested and have suceeded on one occasion so far, they have taken it upon themselves to call the Social Security Administration claiming that Larry is a fraud, a con man and should have his disability benefits (His only sorce of income. ) and his medical coverage denied.

So this is the rub. They are allowed to freely speak or write what they want but they are not allowed according to the law to stop someone else from excersising their own free speech. Nor are they allowed to try and interfere in someone’s life, job, financial situation or medical coverage! How is any of that OK by any standard?

Yes Obama supporters have the right to free speech. No they do not have the right to silence, harass or intimidate those who disagree!

Yes Larry Sinclair has a right to free speech. Yes Barrack Obama has the right to sue him if it is a lie.

No those idiots do not have the right to harass, intimidate and threaten Larry. No they do not have the right to interfere with his right to free speech, medical coverage and his lively hood just because they don’t believe him.

These people claim to be for freedom and the American way but it is not the American way at all to engage in such a thuggish and un-American behaviour.

We must expose these people/movements for what they really are bfore it is too late! If this kind of behaviour is tolerated even sanctioned by not only those who have the power to do something about it but also by the rest of us allowing this to stand then we will be seeing more of our hard won freedoms going by the wayside! We must stand up to the thugs and bullies and Senator Obama must do so also or he is guilty of condoning it by proxy!

Speak out people! Do not let this stuff stand!

 

CQ

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