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I’ve been hearing for a while now the common theme that  the McCain/Palin camp is supposedly inciting racism, hatred and violence. See https://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/newest-obamacrat-talking-point/  for more on this.

 It has even been “proclaimed” that Mac and his supporters are trying to get someone to assassinate The One. Total BULLSHIT! Just another “poor me the victim” claim from camp Obama and it’s just as false as all the rest.

I’ve read and heard many say that the anger expressed by supporters at McCain/Palin events is “out of control rage and racism” and that supposedly McCain isn’t doing enough to stop it. I’d say it’s more like they don’t want this socialist in control of the country and they are angry because the race is close when they think it should be a slam dunk for Mac against the worst candidate ever.

I feel the same way. I cannot believe the people who tell me they are not at all concerned about Obama’s radical associates, his connection to foriegn and domestic terrorists, his ties to ACORN (Yes he IS tied to ACORN in a very big way), his affection for radical religious leaders like Rev. Wright, Father Phleger, Louis Farrakkan and more. Mostly radical religious leaders who peddle hate speech as sermons.

Not only that but these are the same people (Obamabots) who have posted things on The Daily Kos and even the Official DNC website not only advocating but in some cases out right calling for physical and/or sexual violence against Hillary Clinton and many of these hateful posts are still on display for all to see while any reference to anything not positive about The One is immediately deleted and the user(s) banned and admonished as haters and racists.

Remember the “Bros Before Hoes” T-Shirts or all posts about “Hitlery” or all the times even MSM seemed to say she should be taken in a room by someone and “only he comes out”? I suppose that was in no way inciting hatred or violence?

This from the campaign that told supporters “I want you to get in their face”, and “if they bring a knife then we’ll bring a gun”. The wonderful candidate who has blogs from his supporters on his own website demanding that they commit to making sure Obama got the nomination “by any means necessary” and the same supporters who have written numerous blogs and essays about how “violence and rioting will ensue” if Obama is not the next president.

This from the guy that went to Kenya on the taxpayers’ dime to campaign for his cousin Ralia Odinga. You know the guy that lost his first attempt at power and incited race riots, ethnic cleansing and general chaos afterward claiming that the election was “stolen” from him though it was clearly not. The guy who won his second attempt in large part because of those tactics and the fact that he basicly bought the support of radical muslims by promising to install Sharia Law. The cousin who took notes from Obama on how to do this. If you don’t beleive me read up on Odinga. Or you can watch this video. 

Seriously these Obama supporters have been the nastiest, the rudest, the most hateful and violent I have ever encountered in an election cycle. They will threaten, stalk, hack whatever it takes to supress any views other than their own. I have heard of more death threats and threats of violence and various reprisals from Obama supporters than should ever be allowed and yet I have not once seen him try to reign them in.

Well , he did say that the families were off limits after his supporters and his official surrogates had already been smearing sarah Palin and her children for a week or so. It’s easy to speak out after the damage is done.

Suddenly telling the truth is racist and hateful. I had one message from an Obama supporter saying that she did not care one bit about his relationship with Bill Ayers and she wouldn’t care even if he were still doing the despicable things he did back then. It would have absolutely no effect on her decision making!

I have to wonder if these people are all complete nuts. Anyone who doesn’t care if the candidate they want to see in the white house has friendships with terrorists really isn’t smart enough to vote. Sorry but there it is. If you can seriously look at all his associations and think  nothing of it you are a fucking idiot of the highest order.

Seriously does this guy have even one friend or associate that is not either a criminal, a terrorist, a radical hate monger or a far-left nutjob? Not even one normal friend?

How many of us would have this number of anti-American leaning friends? All we hear from camp Obama is how he’s the poor widdle victim of hate and wacism and the mean ol repubwicans are trying to kiwl him! (Sorry for the tweety bird speak I just can’t help it)

Ever notice no matter what happens or who says or does what Obama attacks then claims he is attacked. he is always the “victim” and those of us who love America and democracy are always the “bullies”. Funny because if you look around you won’t see threats from Hillary Clinton supporters or from McCain/Palin supporters. That is unless you consider people saying they won’t vote for Ovbama a threat. I don’t. I call it a promise!

 

CQ

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OK this will have to be quick as I’m already past my me-time limit for this morning!

I want to address two points in this post. Two points that BO supporters seem to keep ignoring but keep popping up. Pesky issues anyway!

As anyone who reads this blog can tell I have several problems with Barrack Obama and voting for him is something I don’t plan on ever adding to my to-do list.

I also post on several other blogs and forums and have argued passionately with many, many BO supporters. Some I call Obamabots, some are just Supporters and there are some I call Converts (former Clinton supporters who have decided to support Obama as is their right) the thing is that if you ask them about these two issues none will respond to the first and only converts will respond to the other.

Issue 1.  The intimidation tactics, the threats and the cyber harassment of Clinton supporters and anyone else who is not an Obama supporter. These things are real. They have been documented by many reliable sources. They are way above and beyond the pale when it comes to trying to persuede others to switch to Obama or shut up!

There are so many instances of people having their private information published, being impersonated by Obama supporters (mostly the Bot type), threats to their jobs and businesses, hacking of blogs and websites, coordinated attacks to shut down sites that oppose The One and even threats of actual physical harm and in some cases threats of death, all for not supporting their candidate and daring to speak or write openly about it.

As I said these incidents are many and well documented yet you will not find a supporter from any of the three groups I mentioned that will respond to questions and outrage over this. They simply ignore it and attack on another front.

I guess either they are involved (Bots), they are in denial (the Supporters and the Converts) or some may simply refuse to believe it because they are incredibly naive or ill-informed.

They flat out refuse to address the subject at all unless you are dealing with a particularly nasty bot and then they will simply turn up the heat and threaten you some more.

Question directed at the Supporters and the Converts. Why if your guy is so great and such a good choice would these kind of tactics be permitted let alone needed? if he’s such a great choice why do some people think they need to force him on us? if he was so great wouldn’t we all be jumping on the bandwagon?

Why will they not talk about this? Answer. It would sink him fast if the truth about this came out in the main stream media. To address it would be to admit it and they simply will not do that.

That means to me that getting the truth out about this is a high priority task. People should know who they’re really dealing with and the kinds of things he will do or allow his followers to do to get his way.

Issue 2.  Why is it that we hear and read so much from all three groups of followers (Bots, Supporters and Converts) that we must not be “real” or “good” democrats or even Americans if we speak against a fellow dem? I have seen and heard many times that we are committing some sort of crime or sin for critiquing a candidate for POTUS! Yes I have actually seen people say it is a crime to speak against a candidate. Some of those comments ironicly came from people who are not even Americans but live in foriegn countries by their own admision. So why do they get to say I am or am not a good democrat or American? They don’t! If you aren’t an American your opinion in the election does not matter one bit in reality.

Funny thing is these same people screaming “How dare you speak against a candidate!” will in the very same hot, baited, breath will go no and on, for hours sometimes, about Hillary and Bill Clinton being the axis of evil and the list of hateful crap they spew is almost endless and most of it untrue.

So it’s a sin or a crime to speak against a candidate for POTUS but to speak against Hillary Clinton is OK? Was she not also a candidate for the same position? Not only was she a candidate she is also a distinguished, accomplished (not to mention loved) Senator from New York AND a former First Lady!

Apparently it’s ok to speak against her though. I mean you can’t speak against a candidate unless it’s Hillary or John McCain. I notice the “Don’t speak against a candidate” rule doesn’t apply to him either.

So let’s get this straight. You cannot speak against Obama because he’s a candidate for POTUS and to do so would be some sort of crime or horrible sin and as a candidate he must be treated with utmost respect, not to mention kid gloves! He should be given that as a matter of respect because he’s a candidate.

On the other hand Hillary Clinton a candidate for the same office, a Senator with a record of accomplishments and a former First lady of the US does apparently NOT deserve or get the same respect.

John McCain a candidate for the same office, a former war hero and a Senator with a record of accomplishments does not deserve or get the same respect.

So, have we got that right? In other words it’s all BULLSHIT! Barrack Obama does not magicly qualify, deserve nor is he entitled to this privilaged status as the most “respected” one! If you have to respect one candidate as such and as a Senator WTF are they thinking that the other candidates (including our former First Lady) are free game?

Who does he think he is anyway? God? Far as I know the only “rule” about not speaking against anyone that is real and concrete is in the Bible where it says “Thou shalt not Blaspheme!” I dont think they were talking about Obama! (Though many of his followers would most likely disagree. He is The One after all!) Puke Alert!

That’s really leveling the playing field there Barky! Yeah! Typical Obama hypocracy! Give The One the advantage since he obviously is so out matched I guess they’re trying to make up for his shortcomings by giving him a “handicap”.

I guess since he is so inept the powers that be (Gag) feel it’s only fair to handcuff his opponents’ supporters with the ‘ol “You can’t say that!” crap! Fair? Level? Right? NOT EVEN CLOSE!

One can’t help but observe that Clinton and McCain supporters are NEVER heard claiming people do not have the right to say whatever they choose to. It’s called Free speech and both of those polticians know a little bit about that.

Well guess what folks this is still America and last time I checked it is not against the law to speak against a candidate. Nor is there a law that says Barky must not be spoken ill of. Free country! Free Speech! Do your homework Obama supporters! Look it up! No such “protection” exists. Not for your Messiah. Not for anyone.

Oh Fuck! Oh, Dear! They really don’t teach Civics in school anymore do they?

 

CQ

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If you have not yet read this I will warn you! Do not read while you are drinking or eating as it may cause you to choke, spit your beverage onto your keyboard or puke!  Here you go:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/aug/19/democratic-delegates-reveal-thug-tactics-hillary-s/?feedback=1#comments

“It’s downright nasty,” said Memphis superdelegate and City Council member Myron Lowery, who has shared dozens of the messages he’s received with The Commercial Appeal.

“I think it’s divisive for the ‘Support Hillary’ campaign to continue at this time. She made the decision to fully support Mr. Obama,” said Lowery. “I don’t know why they’re not taking their cue from Hillary and falling in line.”

Lowery said he does not believe Clinton herself is behind the effort, but that it’s “her supporters, acting on their own because they’re proud of what they have done for her.”

Damn straight we’re proud of what we’ve done for her! We’ve had to fight tooth and nail for her to get the traditional roll call vote that every other candidate has always been given as a matter of common practice. We’ve had to fight for every tiny bit of respect the Obama campaign and supporters have grudgingly paid her and her historic campaign.

We are proud of our candidate and our efforts for her. So what? Since when is that a crime? 

 BTW if I hear one more democratic official ask why we don’t just “fall in line” I may start a “mail your shit to the idiots” campaign! Wouldn’t that be fun! OK! I promise not to crap into an envelope and mail it if only for the sake of the poor postal workers who would have to deliver it but you see where I’m coming from. (No fun! No fun at all!)

Most of the messages Lowery has received from across the country come from Hillary supporters making the case that she won more voters’ votes in the primaries, she won bigger states, that Obama won states that won’t vote Democratic in November and that she is the only “elect-able” Democrat.

“Obama could not ‘seal the deal’ with voters during the primaries,” said one message Lowery received Tuesday from a Sacha Millstone, a Colorado delegate to next week’s convention. “The more voters got to know him, the more voters chose Hillary Clinton…

“Democrats must offer voters the candidate with the best chance of winning in November, the experienced candidate who understands the problems we face and the solutions we need — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

Hmmmm…so these are the “Thug tactics” the article was complaining about. So I take it voting for the person you think is the best for the job and asking for the delegates to vote according to the votes that were cast is thuggery. Apparently it is according to this author.

I suppose that Bartholomew Sullivan, the author of this utterly and completely biased piece of so called journalism thinks that these “Thug Tactics” he talks about are worse than the intimidation, harassment, threats to people’s businesses, reputations and physical well being pale in comparison? The tendencies of Obama supporters to portray all dissenters as “Racists” and “Closet Republicans” as well as bitter, typical, white, old, female, bitter, dead-enders, holdouts, menopausal hysterics is not thuggish at all?

I guess he thinks that Obama supporters who make threats and use other people’s screennames and email addresses to make false comments on sites and sign people up for MyBarrackObama blog accounts without their knowledge or consent is not underhanded in any way either? How about when they try 50 – 75 times per day to change a Hillary supporter’s password on a site that they post at? (Does the word Hack mean anything?) Or when they coordinate attacks on anti-Obama blogs and forums causing them to shut down, get locked or simply cause an error message I guess that’s supposed to be “friendly and civil”?

In a PUMA (which stands for “party unity my ass” to some but for the official organization it stands for People United Means Action) statement sent to Lowery last Friday, the group wrote that it was “ashamed of the strong-arming, political threats and thinly-veiled ‘suggestions’ that have been sent to Democratic delegates and superdelegates’ during this primary season. These ‘thug’ tactics appear to be increasing as Senator Obama begins the downward slide in the polls and Senator Clinton’s support grows.”

Michael Gordon of Parker City, Ind., wrote Lowery Tuesday as representative of PUMA, noting that the Obama campaign spent $56 million in July “only to lose ground to (John) McCain…

“Where Obama once got a free pass on such despicable relationships with anti-American people such as Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Soros, Pfleger, Farakkhan — the American voters are beginning to realize what a questionable and shady past this man has led,” Gordon writes.

Wow! How thuggish! They actually expect the DNC to consider whether or not this guy can get elected? I mean that is so not the point right? I mean how bad of us PUMAS to point out the obvious! Like how he’s not polling well when you consider it should be a slam dunk for Dems this year.

Wow! That’s like, so racist and MEAN! I mean, like who cares if he’s more fake and crooked than Nixon and more wishy washy than Carter? Right? It’s definitely racist to pick the person who could actually win right?

This is all about Obama and getting an African American the nomination so we can say we’re the most progressive right? Winning in November is, after all, not the important thing right? ( OMG even when I’m trying to spoof them I almost puke from writing those words!)

The good news as I see it is the word is getting out and that this idiot just gave PUMAS more free publicity! Thanks Bartholomew Sullivan! We need all the publicity we can get! I guess we should have pissed off the Kool-Ade drinkers sooner!

I recently ran into an old on-line friend in another forum that is totally unrelated to politics. We have a lot in common. We’re both former residents of the same “fly-over” state, both feel strongly about many of the same issues, especially on issues regarding children, women, human rights, protecting our environment and many other things.  She recently graduated college, got a new, exciting job and moved to another state.

I was thrilled to hear from her after such a long time. She posted something about Veep-stakes and I responded. (It’s not a political forum but people still do mention politics occasionaly.)

The response I got back stunned and disspaionted me. Same ‘ol, same ‘ol lines we get from the Obamabots as well as the supposed “converts” after the primaries.

UPDATED: i REMOVED THE COMMENTS FROM MY cONVERT FRIEND AT HER REQUEST. hOWEVER I WILL NOT BE REMOVING MY COMMENTS AS I FEEL THEY ARE MY OPINONS AND ARE IN LINE WITH THE GENERAL FEELING OF THE POST.

I guess we all know friends and family who feel this way but I still find it rather sad that they cannot look at the bigger picture here. 1. Who can actually win. 2. Country before party. 3. This guy is a fruad and has not been vetted. Below is my response to her. I tried not to be too harsh as I really do value her friendship and intellect.

XXX (Name deleted by CQ);

I read your response yesterday and to be honest I had to think about it before I replied.

I’m really saddened that you feel Clinton lost because she “ran a crummy campaign” as I think she ran the only campaign she could. IE; One with both hands tied behind her back, If she had really gone after Obama on the things that will sink him, she would have been crucified and hung out to dry by the party for attacking a fellow dem on such things.

They would rather ignore those things and wait for the repubs to jump on them instead of actually vetting the candidate ahead of time.

We will have to agree to disagree because I don’t believe that Hillary ran a crummy campaign or that she lost fair and square and besides that this is about far more than Hillary. We’re (PUMAS) still upset that the party totally screwed Michigan and Florida and then they gave uncommitted votes to a guy who’s name was not even on the ballot not to mention the 4 delegates that were taken from Clinton that were earned based on actual votes counted for Clinton because the wanted to reflect the will of the voters who did not do thier duty and get off their asses to actually vote. In my recollection the fair reflection rule was meant to reflect the will of the voters not those who didn’t vote.

More than even that is the fact the DNC leadership has been deeply biased from day one. Every time he lost big (West Virginia anybody? He got handed his ass.) a parade of supers came out to bolster him and in particular Edwards the big fraud who went on about family values and poor, working class folks and said he would not endorse before the end of the primaries came out immediately after WV to say the voters had spoken and so had he. Yes the voters spoke alright 46 point win for your opponent does not translate into voter support of your candidacy.

The thing that pisses me off most is the dismissiveness from Obama and his supporters as if not counting votes as cast is perfectly allright this year even though we were all screaming about it the last two elections. I guess it’s ok as long as it’s dems suppressing the vote.

Then we have the assumption that there are only a few holdouts and they’re mostly older, white, bitter women. I know for a fact there are a lot more than a few of us who will not vote for Barky and I also know that many of us are not gerriatric, menopausal and on our last, bitter, racist legs. It really pisses me off that half the party is being dismissed and dissed this way and they expect us to “come around”. Give me a break! If they were to actually try treating Hill’s supporters with any measure of respect they might have half a chance.

I actually thought very highly of the senator before this race started and I saw how he treated not only Hill and her supporters but the disdain he has for anyone who dares to question him. The conclusion put out by his camp that any and all critics are absolutely racist as they don’t believe anyone could possibly have any other reason to not vote for him. This is an insult!

Turn it around and ask an Obama supporter if they made their decision soley based on race see how offended they get. It’s just as stupid to believe on either side. Are there people who will vote or not vote Obama based soley on race? YES on BOTH sides. Does that mean everybody that will/won’t vote for him is doing so based soley on race? OF COURSE NOT!

I have been threatened, had my personal info published on the net (outed if you will),had horrible emails and comments made in my name by Obama supporters impersonating me, I have had them contact the Board of Realtors in my state and try to defame me, they have threatened my business, contacted proffessional organizations in my name and many other atrocities simply because I don’t agree with and will not vote for Obama. His thugs are more than enough reason for me.

So XXX (name deleted by CQ), I respect you and your opinion as well as your right to hold one different from my own but I respectfully disagree with your assesment.

I totaly agree about him picking a female VP that is not Hillary will be political suicide though and I would hope that he knows it too.

All I can say is this:
It ain’t over until it’s over! I promise if I turn out to be right about the convention or November I will do my best not to say I told you so!

Also people who claim Hill is doing this because she’s power-hungry or feels entitled are wrong. She is doing this as are many of us because we feel strongly that country comes before party and obama is a threat to both. She is doing everything she can to try and save the party and the country.

I do not want McCain either but if it is close in my state I may have to vote republican for the first time in my life because I feel that strongly that Obama must be defeated for America’s sake.

CQ

Something tells me she won’t be happy with my response any more than I was with hers but I have to honest about my feelings. I don’t believe in fake, pandering quasi-agreement. EDITED BY CQ TO ADD SHE WASN’T HAPPY ABOUT IT AT ALL AND AS YOU CAN SEE SHE ASKED TO HAVE HER COMMENTS REMOVED. i HAVE DONE SO. HOPEFULLY SHE AND I CAN REMAIN FRIEND BUT IF SHE NO LONGER WANTS TO THEN I WILL CONSIDER IT A LOSS BUT HER DECISION NOT MINE.

Discuss.

CQ

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I guess first the post’s from Techdude & Judah Benjamin on texasdarlin.wordpress.com in regards to the apparently fraudulent Certificate of Live Birth that has been posted on the Fight the Smears site the One set up to supposedly depose his detractors. Interestingly enough this could be much more problematic for the Senator than the original alleged “smears” themselves.

Consider this if the “smears” are indeed proved true then this site they set up to fight them and the “proofs” claimed on it are in fact “smears” themselves. First of all the term “smears” is not by any means a technical or official term. What we are really talking about here cannot be simply brushed off as “smears”. These are misrepresentation of facts and in some cases , such as the COLB if it is in fact proven a forgery, a criminal fraud.

Think about it. I am not an idiot. I know there are people who lie on and off the web every day. I know there are people who lie about others and those who lie about what others have said about them. I also know that if you want to present yourself as honorable, trustworthy and qualified to lead the USA as President you should not lie period. Not about yourself and not about those who accuse you rightfully.

I’m no judge or jury but I know that although there is much argument about the forgery even those who disagree about whether it’s a complete fake or a fake created over an existing erased document seem to be in general agreement that regardless the document in question is indeed a fake. So the question is if he had nothing to hide and these were all “smears” then why did he present a forgery instead of the real document? What are we to think about this in regard to the other “smears” the One is fighting?

Should someone who presents forged documents and fights supposed “smears” with lies be considered qualified, capable or morally acceptable for the office of POTUS? If you want a more in-depth report go to Texas Darlin’s site and explore away!

Next on the agenda the petition to impeach Senator Obama has been gaining signatures and apparently has been amended to add more charges. From what I read on the matter even Kenya has jumped on the bandwagon. They are a bit angry at the Senator for interfering in and speaking out against the then current government and in support of his cousin Railla Odinga. There has been much violence in Kenya since Odinga gained power and the US allied country blames in some ways Barrack Obama for interfering in their government and helping to get this current corrupt government in power. Plus they allege he misused his passport. For a much more detailed report on this check out citizenwells.wordpress.com Wells has more of the actual text and a link to the petition. Here is the post I’m talking about and please if you haven’t yet signed the petition DO SO NOW!

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/impeach-obama-petition-expel-obama-obama-kenya-2006-kenyan-government-protests-abuse-of-power-more-lies-and-deception/#comments

OK now for the next subject at hand. Some of you have been subjected, as have I, to the abuse and malice of The Mitch & Nan Show blog. A blog that’s entire purpose was to harass, intimidate, threaten and stalk Larry Sinclair and anyone who might possibly believe him, post comments to or visit his blogs.

I have written in the past on my blog about larry Sinclair and his claims that he had gay sex and engaged in the use of cocaine with Barrack Obama in 1999. This man has been subjected to all manor of abuse since making this claim and in fact the threats and interference in his life by others from M&N have made many even more convinced that Larry is indeed telling the truth. I don’t know for a fact one way or another. I was not there. The only people who do know for a fact are Larry Sinclair himself, Barrack Obama, the Limo Driver on the and anybody who the Good Senator may have told in order to gain their help with the cover-up.

As I said I do not know for a fact but it’s as obvious as the nose on your face that Obama has NOT SUED  and has not even posted a rebuttal on his Fight the Smears website. If Larry is lying why wouldn’t Obama sue him? If Larry is lying why are people like M&N so intent on shutting him up? To the point they have actually called law enforcement including the FBI to get Larry arrested, they have called the SSA (by their own written admission no less) to try and get his disability payments and medical coverage taken away from him?

Why would these people go to the trouble of orchastrating attacks on his blog hosts again and again to get his blog shut down and then brag in writing on their blog about having done so? M&N calim to be from France but they have been traced to Houston by some with more computer knowledge than me. They and those who post there and harrass from there use programs that mask their IP addresses so figuring out who they are and where they are is difficult at best. Why the ruse? If they are so sure they are right why hide behind a mask?

I’ll tell you why. They don’t want to be traced back because they know some of the things they have been doing are in fact illegal AND they probabaly are under strict orders not to let anyone find out who is really behind them and their agenda. Think about that one for a minute!

Well surprise, surprise what did I see yeaterday? The Mitch & Nan Show blog is shut down! Could it be that the hate and abuse they spew there finally caught up with them and the host actually shut them down?

According to Larry’s site, http://larrysinclair0926.com/ their host, Go Daddy.com, was served with a copyright infringement notice under the DMCA and they have been given notice to remove certain materials from it’s severers which are being used in direct violation of the law. Hmmmm so Go Daddy.com was served and now M&N are shut down. What conclusions can one draw from that bit of information?

I think it’s also important to note that go Daddy.com is also the web host for BarrackObama.com and other pro-Obama blogs some of which may also be involved in this situation. I’ll have to check out some of the opposition blogs and see if there are more of them shut down as a result of this.

All I can say is I won’t miss those assholes and their hate mail one bit. Funny it seemed to stop about the same time as their blog was shut down. Scared?

 

CQ

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This information is coming to light through the blogger’s network. I think it is extremely important that we get the word out about this. We are NOT saying that Barrack Obama himself is involved although we don’t know either way I would highly doubt it. I don’t think he would be so stupid as to be personally involved in this kind of thing.  Having said that what is being said is that at least three seperate IP’s linked to the Blogger accounts that were shut down by a coordinated spam flagging attack were traced back to mybarrackobama.com by law enforcement and are currently being investigated.

Citizen Wells has an excellent post on the matter:

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/08/03/obama-camp-stops-free-speech-democrat-party-left-wing-brown-shirts-nazi-germany-revisited-barackobamacom-fairness-doctrine-nancy-pelosi/#comment-3064

Here is another from bloggasm:

http://bloggasm.com/whos-responsible-for-shutting-down-a-number-of-anti-obama-blogspot-accounts#comment-77765

Finally here is a link to macsmind where the proof was uncovered:

http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/08/02/macsmind-hacking-update/#comment-47531

Truthfully I believe Senator Obama though he is not personally responsable, SHOULD DENOUNCE THIS KIND OF ABUSE OF THE INTERNET! I believe he should come out publicly and denounce this sort of behaviour and let people know it will not be tolerated on his official website. If he does not then he is by proxy condoning such behaviour!

This country was founded on the principals of freedom and justice for all. These freedoms include the right to free speech. If we have come to the point where free speech has become a luxury only to be enjoyed by those in power or those who can intimidate, harass, threaten and over-power the voices of the rest then we must act now to restore freedom before it’s too late!

It’s a very thin line these folks are walking. One blog, who shall not be named as I refuse to give them any more free publicity for thier disgusting site, makes no bones about the fact they feel they are free to post anything they want. I would agree with them to a point. That point, which they have gone way past, is where they feel they should be allowed this freedom but those who disagree with them are fodder for their jokes and their intimadation tactics, of which I myself have been subjected to and they include hateful and threatening posts, impersonating people I know in real life to send me threats and harassment. Impersonating me in other forums and blogs saying terrible things, claiming I will “never work again” (Funny since I am self employed. I don’t know who they think will fire me.)

They have called me a racist, a republican, bitter, xenophobic (This is really funny because the person posting that one seemed as though that word wuold be out of their normal vocabulary from the rest of the post.). They posted my personal information on their blog and all this because I visit the site of Larry Sinclair who they feel does not have a right to free speech.

As a matter of fact they are so against Larry Sinclair being allowed to express himself they have threatened his life, shut down his blogs with coordinated complaints and attacks, they have gone out of their way trying to have him arrested and have suceeded on one occasion so far, they have taken it upon themselves to call the Social Security Administration claiming that Larry is a fraud, a con man and should have his disability benefits (His only sorce of income. ) and his medical coverage denied.

So this is the rub. They are allowed to freely speak or write what they want but they are not allowed according to the law to stop someone else from excersising their own free speech. Nor are they allowed to try and interfere in someone’s life, job, financial situation or medical coverage! How is any of that OK by any standard?

Yes Obama supporters have the right to free speech. No they do not have the right to silence, harass or intimidate those who disagree!

Yes Larry Sinclair has a right to free speech. Yes Barrack Obama has the right to sue him if it is a lie.

No those idiots do not have the right to harass, intimidate and threaten Larry. No they do not have the right to interfere with his right to free speech, medical coverage and his lively hood just because they don’t believe him.

These people claim to be for freedom and the American way but it is not the American way at all to engage in such a thuggish and un-American behaviour.

We must expose these people/movements for what they really are bfore it is too late! If this kind of behaviour is tolerated even sanctioned by not only those who have the power to do something about it but also by the rest of us allowing this to stand then we will be seeing more of our hard won freedoms going by the wayside! We must stand up to the thugs and bullies and Senator Obama must do so also or he is guilty of condoning it by proxy!

Speak out people! Do not let this stuff stand!

 

CQ

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If you have been reading this blog lately or the blogs of Larry Sinclair, Citizen Wells, Zach Jones or many others you already know about this foul site run by this/these person(s) and their vicious cyber attacks on Larry and all who support him or even anyone who dares visit his blogs.

This site claims they are not a pro-Obama site. I don’t know whether or not they are pro-Obama for sure but as far as I can see the entire purpose for their blog seems to be attacking Larry Sinclair and anyone who supports him, visits or comments on his blogs.

 

I see absolutely no posts on that site that are about ANYTHING ELSE. People should really think about that. In fact that alone says that this is a coordinated attack. Same goes for the blogger neonzx. Not one post on his blog that is not all about Larry Sinclair. Hmmmm. I wonder why these folks have such an obsession? Pro-Obama? Anti-Larry? Or maybe it’s the gay thing. That’s probably it. They’re just anti-gay.

 

It makes no difference to me. They are free to have their hateful thoughts. They are not free to attack, harass and infringe upon the rights of others to have their own thoughts or to express them. They claim Larry is a criminal and a scam artist and that all the others they attack are guilty by association. They are not judge and jury however and they do not have the right to do the things they are doing. If Larry is a criminal then it is the job of law enforcement to investigate and prosecute NOT M&N!

 

Larry has been up front and honest about his past. Mitch & Nan are not even up front about who they/he are/is or where they/he are/is. The claim is that they are from France. A whois search shows that whoever they are they re-rout their posts through a bogus network of IP masking. Guess they were worried someone might be able to figure out who and where they are and that they are full of crap! Maybe they don’t want to be tracked back to the real organization behind this crap! Maybe that organization has strict rules about being tied openly with such people?

 

 

 The fact is that even if you don’t believe Larry (I do) the fact that the site has one agenda and the tactics used by them should scare the hell out of everybody! Why did they decide to focus their attention and time on just this one guy and then why extend their hate and attacks to anyone who ever visited or commented on his site?

 

What reason do they have for their BS? They claim they are crusaders for the truth but what crusader would use the methods and malice these people do? Would people seeking truth and justice really commit crimes against innocent people just because they visit or post comments at a blog of someone they hate?

 

Think about it. I think they are dangerous people because I too have had first hand experience with their wrath. They published my real name, email address and IP on their website along with every other person who ever went to Larry’s blog. They have impersonated me on other blogs, message boards and even in professional organizations in my home state! Lucky for me many of these imposters are caught by either me or on-line friends who know better than to attribute the crap they spew to me. We have to look out for each other and alert friends when someone tries this!

 

If we allow this kind of thug mentality to take over it will not be long before we can’t recognize our great country! Whether or not you believe Sinclair is not the question people should ask as much as whether or not he and all Americans have the right to free speech and the right to feel safe when expressing said speech.

 

M&N do not have the right to silence anybody! They may however be given the right to remain silent if they continue their thuggery.

 

CQ

 

 

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Once again the followers of the Golden Idiot have managed to squash free speech! The idiots at The Mitch & Nan Show (Again I refuse to link to this site and if you decide to go there spray yourself with lysol first.) have been creating havoc as usual.

As far as I can tell this site is dedicated strictly to hating, smearing and harrassing Larry Sinclair and anyone who supports or even visits his blogs. I say blogs because I believe this is the third time he has had to move to a different site after harrassment and false abuse reports made by these people.

The latest happened yesterday after Larry published an email from one Lynne DeBoth in Little Rock, Arkansas which clearly threatened his life asking 

 “One question, isn’t there anything we can do to get totally rid of Larry Sinclair?? Perhaps put out a contract on him???”

a clear threat to have him killed and as far as I know that is a CRIME. Solicitation of murder is a crime! WOW! I cannot believe that I feel I have to post that as it should be common knowledge! Yes it is illegal to suggest that someone “get rid of someone permanently”. Yes it is illegal to suggest hiring a contract killer! WOW! Who knew?

Newsflash to idiots! Threats are illegal and can and will be procecuted!

After they colluded to shut Larry’s site down again and then bragged about it online AGAIN, they began a campaign to smear and “out” CitizenWells by publishing personal information about a real estate broker in NC. They seem to “think” they are pretty smart. Snark!

Well while I’m on the subject I feel there is one huge question that needs to be asked. Is there no violation of TOS at GoDaddy.com where the nasty threats are being made? Does GoDaddy.com allow and endorse these kinds of things? Why have they not shut down The Mitch & Nan Show blog? Or is it ok by them to make death threats on their site? Are they prepared to be sued because of these actions going on un-checked? Another question. Why is it if you go to that site there is no button for GoDaddy as per reporting abuse ect.? Standard? Or perhaps M&N found a way to get around it?

Really! When will this crap stop? Are these people Obamabots (I suspect they are from many remarks I’ve seen posted there.) or just plain ‘ol fashion haters?

Whether you believe him or not (I do) the sheer amount of hate, stalking, harassment, threats, people calling law enforcement to try and get him arrested (again) and campaigning the SSA to get his disability payments stopped! I mean come on now! This is beyond ridiculous! It is very clear to anyone with one eye and half a brain that these are coordinated efforts. Attacks in fact. They not only admit as much in writing they brag about it!

I’m sure I’ll be the next target or somewhere on the list. They already published a list last week of names, email addresses and IP’s of everyone who visited Larry’s blog. That’s how I discovered them I googled my name and their site and list came up first! Boy was I angry as were many people who’s only crime was going to a website of a person they didn’t like. There are pending legal actions being taken by many of those who were harassed by these people. They were actually encouraging readers to investigate and harass the people on the list. IN PRINT! They were forced to take down the post but have since taken to the same tactics in smaller doses. Hoping to fly under the host’s radar I suppose.

UPDATE: LARRY SINCLAIR IS BACK UP! YOU CAN JUST CLICK ON THE LINK TO HIS OLD BLOG OR GO TO: 

      http://larrysinclair0926.com/2001/index.html

Note to thugs you can’t stop the truth!

CQ

UPDATE: I forgot to mention that interfering in someone else’s disability payments is also illegal.

UPDATE: New post from Larry Sinclair with more information about this.

http://larrysinclair0926.com/2001/2522.html?entryId=2539994e98205aad13df55925bd112b0

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