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If you have not yet read this I will warn you! Do not read while you are drinking or eating as it may cause you to choke, spit your beverage onto your keyboard or puke!  Here you go:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/aug/19/democratic-delegates-reveal-thug-tactics-hillary-s/?feedback=1#comments

“It’s downright nasty,” said Memphis superdelegate and City Council member Myron Lowery, who has shared dozens of the messages he’s received with The Commercial Appeal.

“I think it’s divisive for the ‘Support Hillary’ campaign to continue at this time. She made the decision to fully support Mr. Obama,” said Lowery. “I don’t know why they’re not taking their cue from Hillary and falling in line.”

Lowery said he does not believe Clinton herself is behind the effort, but that it’s “her supporters, acting on their own because they’re proud of what they have done for her.”

Damn straight we’re proud of what we’ve done for her! We’ve had to fight tooth and nail for her to get the traditional roll call vote that every other candidate has always been given as a matter of common practice. We’ve had to fight for every tiny bit of respect the Obama campaign and supporters have grudgingly paid her and her historic campaign.

We are proud of our candidate and our efforts for her. So what? Since when is that a crime? 

 BTW if I hear one more democratic official ask why we don’t just “fall in line” I may start a “mail your shit to the idiots” campaign! Wouldn’t that be fun! OK! I promise not to crap into an envelope and mail it if only for the sake of the poor postal workers who would have to deliver it but you see where I’m coming from. (No fun! No fun at all!)

Most of the messages Lowery has received from across the country come from Hillary supporters making the case that she won more voters’ votes in the primaries, she won bigger states, that Obama won states that won’t vote Democratic in November and that she is the only “elect-able” Democrat.

“Obama could not ‘seal the deal’ with voters during the primaries,” said one message Lowery received Tuesday from a Sacha Millstone, a Colorado delegate to next week’s convention. “The more voters got to know him, the more voters chose Hillary Clinton…

“Democrats must offer voters the candidate with the best chance of winning in November, the experienced candidate who understands the problems we face and the solutions we need — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

Hmmmm…so these are the “Thug tactics” the article was complaining about. So I take it voting for the person you think is the best for the job and asking for the delegates to vote according to the votes that were cast is thuggery. Apparently it is according to this author.

I suppose that Bartholomew Sullivan, the author of this utterly and completely biased piece of so called journalism thinks that these “Thug Tactics” he talks about are worse than the intimidation, harassment, threats to people’s businesses, reputations and physical well being pale in comparison? The tendencies of Obama supporters to portray all dissenters as “Racists” and “Closet Republicans” as well as bitter, typical, white, old, female, bitter, dead-enders, holdouts, menopausal hysterics is not thuggish at all?

I guess he thinks that Obama supporters who make threats and use other people’s screennames and email addresses to make false comments on sites and sign people up for MyBarrackObama blog accounts without their knowledge or consent is not underhanded in any way either? How about when they try 50 – 75 times per day to change a Hillary supporter’s password on a site that they post at? (Does the word Hack mean anything?) Or when they coordinate attacks on anti-Obama blogs and forums causing them to shut down, get locked or simply cause an error message I guess that’s supposed to be “friendly and civil”?

In a PUMA (which stands for “party unity my ass” to some but for the official organization it stands for People United Means Action) statement sent to Lowery last Friday, the group wrote that it was “ashamed of the strong-arming, political threats and thinly-veiled ‘suggestions’ that have been sent to Democratic delegates and superdelegates’ during this primary season. These ‘thug’ tactics appear to be increasing as Senator Obama begins the downward slide in the polls and Senator Clinton’s support grows.”

Michael Gordon of Parker City, Ind., wrote Lowery Tuesday as representative of PUMA, noting that the Obama campaign spent $56 million in July “only to lose ground to (John) McCain…

“Where Obama once got a free pass on such despicable relationships with anti-American people such as Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Soros, Pfleger, Farakkhan — the American voters are beginning to realize what a questionable and shady past this man has led,” Gordon writes.

Wow! How thuggish! They actually expect the DNC to consider whether or not this guy can get elected? I mean that is so not the point right? I mean how bad of us PUMAS to point out the obvious! Like how he’s not polling well when you consider it should be a slam dunk for Dems this year.

Wow! That’s like, so racist and MEAN! I mean, like who cares if he’s more fake and crooked than Nixon and more wishy washy than Carter? Right? It’s definitely racist to pick the person who could actually win right?

This is all about Obama and getting an African American the nomination so we can say we’re the most progressive right? Winning in November is, after all, not the important thing right? ( OMG even when I’m trying to spoof them I almost puke from writing those words!)

The good news as I see it is the word is getting out and that this idiot just gave PUMAS more free publicity! Thanks Bartholomew Sullivan! We need all the publicity we can get! I guess we should have pissed off the Kool-Ade drinkers sooner!

I recently ran into an old on-line friend in another forum that is totally unrelated to politics. We have a lot in common. We’re both former residents of the same “fly-over” state, both feel strongly about many of the same issues, especially on issues regarding children, women, human rights, protecting our environment and many other things.  She recently graduated college, got a new, exciting job and moved to another state.

I was thrilled to hear from her after such a long time. She posted something about Veep-stakes and I responded. (It’s not a political forum but people still do mention politics occasionaly.)

The response I got back stunned and disspaionted me. Same ‘ol, same ‘ol lines we get from the Obamabots as well as the supposed “converts” after the primaries.

UPDATED: i REMOVED THE COMMENTS FROM MY cONVERT FRIEND AT HER REQUEST. hOWEVER I WILL NOT BE REMOVING MY COMMENTS AS I FEEL THEY ARE MY OPINONS AND ARE IN LINE WITH THE GENERAL FEELING OF THE POST.

I guess we all know friends and family who feel this way but I still find it rather sad that they cannot look at the bigger picture here. 1. Who can actually win. 2. Country before party. 3. This guy is a fruad and has not been vetted. Below is my response to her. I tried not to be too harsh as I really do value her friendship and intellect.

XXX (Name deleted by CQ);

I read your response yesterday and to be honest I had to think about it before I replied.

I’m really saddened that you feel Clinton lost because she “ran a crummy campaign” as I think she ran the only campaign she could. IE; One with both hands tied behind her back, If she had really gone after Obama on the things that will sink him, she would have been crucified and hung out to dry by the party for attacking a fellow dem on such things.

They would rather ignore those things and wait for the repubs to jump on them instead of actually vetting the candidate ahead of time.

We will have to agree to disagree because I don’t believe that Hillary ran a crummy campaign or that she lost fair and square and besides that this is about far more than Hillary. We’re (PUMAS) still upset that the party totally screwed Michigan and Florida and then they gave uncommitted votes to a guy who’s name was not even on the ballot not to mention the 4 delegates that were taken from Clinton that were earned based on actual votes counted for Clinton because the wanted to reflect the will of the voters who did not do thier duty and get off their asses to actually vote. In my recollection the fair reflection rule was meant to reflect the will of the voters not those who didn’t vote.

More than even that is the fact the DNC leadership has been deeply biased from day one. Every time he lost big (West Virginia anybody? He got handed his ass.) a parade of supers came out to bolster him and in particular Edwards the big fraud who went on about family values and poor, working class folks and said he would not endorse before the end of the primaries came out immediately after WV to say the voters had spoken and so had he. Yes the voters spoke alright 46 point win for your opponent does not translate into voter support of your candidacy.

The thing that pisses me off most is the dismissiveness from Obama and his supporters as if not counting votes as cast is perfectly allright this year even though we were all screaming about it the last two elections. I guess it’s ok as long as it’s dems suppressing the vote.

Then we have the assumption that there are only a few holdouts and they’re mostly older, white, bitter women. I know for a fact there are a lot more than a few of us who will not vote for Barky and I also know that many of us are not gerriatric, menopausal and on our last, bitter, racist legs. It really pisses me off that half the party is being dismissed and dissed this way and they expect us to “come around”. Give me a break! If they were to actually try treating Hill’s supporters with any measure of respect they might have half a chance.

I actually thought very highly of the senator before this race started and I saw how he treated not only Hill and her supporters but the disdain he has for anyone who dares to question him. The conclusion put out by his camp that any and all critics are absolutely racist as they don’t believe anyone could possibly have any other reason to not vote for him. This is an insult!

Turn it around and ask an Obama supporter if they made their decision soley based on race see how offended they get. It’s just as stupid to believe on either side. Are there people who will vote or not vote Obama based soley on race? YES on BOTH sides. Does that mean everybody that will/won’t vote for him is doing so based soley on race? OF COURSE NOT!

I have been threatened, had my personal info published on the net (outed if you will),had horrible emails and comments made in my name by Obama supporters impersonating me, I have had them contact the Board of Realtors in my state and try to defame me, they have threatened my business, contacted proffessional organizations in my name and many other atrocities simply because I don’t agree with and will not vote for Obama. His thugs are more than enough reason for me.

So XXX (name deleted by CQ), I respect you and your opinion as well as your right to hold one different from my own but I respectfully disagree with your assesment.

I totaly agree about him picking a female VP that is not Hillary will be political suicide though and I would hope that he knows it too.

All I can say is this:
It ain’t over until it’s over! I promise if I turn out to be right about the convention or November I will do my best not to say I told you so!

Also people who claim Hill is doing this because she’s power-hungry or feels entitled are wrong. She is doing this as are many of us because we feel strongly that country comes before party and obama is a threat to both. She is doing everything she can to try and save the party and the country.

I do not want McCain either but if it is close in my state I may have to vote republican for the first time in my life because I feel that strongly that Obama must be defeated for America’s sake.

CQ

Something tells me she won’t be happy with my response any more than I was with hers but I have to honest about my feelings. I don’t believe in fake, pandering quasi-agreement. EDITED BY CQ TO ADD SHE WASN’T HAPPY ABOUT IT AT ALL AND AS YOU CAN SEE SHE ASKED TO HAVE HER COMMENTS REMOVED. i HAVE DONE SO. HOPEFULLY SHE AND I CAN REMAIN FRIEND BUT IF SHE NO LONGER WANTS TO THEN I WILL CONSIDER IT A LOSS BUT HER DECISION NOT MINE.

Discuss.

CQ

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Hillary has had far worse satire made about her and has had lots of mean spirited insults hurled at her in this election season and all along but especially when she was the First Lady. Didn’t hear Obama complaining about any of that. Nope he has comedians making jokes about menopause and ho’s.

Remember all those Hillary nutcrackers and the Bros before Ho’s T-shirts? How about the very real attacks she dealt with on a daily basis in the media? Like when they said she was only in the race because Bill had an affair or when they said she was pimping out her daughter? How about when she was ridiculed for her hairstyles, not being a cookie baker, her pantsuits, her laugh, her voice?

They compared her to their mother-in-law, their ex-wife at probate and wondered if America would stand for watching a woman president age? Sound familiar? This stuff was all sanctioned by the Obama campaign although they wanted us to think the oppisite.

He attacks and then claims everyone is attacking him. He and his big mouth wife say all kinds of crude, inappropriate things in public and even on video tape and yet they whine that it’s not fair to attack them like that when they are called on it. “I’m proud of my country for the first time in my adult life..” springs to mind as does “How can you run the whitehouse if you can’t run your own” or “He’s been my spiritual mentor”, “Typical white person”, “God Damn America”? Ok paraphrasing here but we’ve all heard it so many times we know it by heart anyway.

So it’s ok to critisize and attack his opponents and he will, if forced to, make some weak comment and try to brush it off or better yet insist that although yes, there was sexisim in the campaign, it was not harmful to Mrs. Clinton (OOOHH it really pisses me off when he calls her Mrs. and NOT Senator! It’s called RESPECT and she has earned it!) and furthermore, according to Obama, there was more than one woman who was battered by it. WTF???

Seriously, he can barely admit that Hillary had to deal with a plethora of sexisim and that he and his supporters were behind a lot of it. Yet we are supposed to feel sorry for Michelle because she got attacked for stupid crap that actually came out of her own f-ing mouth! 

Sorry! I don’t feel one bit sorry for her she brought every bit of it on herself. I DON’T condone sexisim ever and do not condone it against Michelle Obama any more than I do against Hillary Clinton. Having said that I can hardly see how they can complain about attacks for something one has actually said or done!

Oh, that’s right, I forgot. The Obamas are supposed to be special and to be treated with kid gloves. After all they are both where they are today because of affirmative action and special, preferential treatment. Before you start sreaming I will say I don’t have  a problem with affirmative action in general. I think it was created to try and level the field and hopefully it will eventually die a quiet and respected death after the field has been deemed at least mostly level. Having said that I don’t think it should have any place in our political election process.

When you are talking about electing the people to represent all of us and to be in charge of our country then I beleive it is our duty to elect the people we trust to do the job best and the people who have earned the right to do so with their service and commitment to this country. I don’t believe that means propping up someone who lost a contest by huge margins and calling them the clear winner and calling the actual winner of said contest a loser!  I don’t believe a 36 or a 41 point win is meaningless regardless of what the media idiots tell me.

I also don’t believe John Edwards when he says the party has spoken and so has he because it made no sense coming on the heels of such an astronomical loss. Every time he lost big we saw a trotting out of super delegates claiming he was the clear winner and we better get behind him. Yet if he were really the clear winner as they wanted us to believe we would not have needed them to come out and tell us so. It would have been obvious. You know like the DNC bias that’s as plain as the nose on your face.

These are the tactics of Senator Obama. Throw shit as far and as fast as you can then duck and cover. You can blame it on someone else and drive over them with your bus, ‘er I mean campaign. Cry that you are being persecuted for being black and then call everyone who disagrees with you, regardless of the reason a racist or republican and every word spoken or written against you  a smear whether it’s true or not. If they complain about the shit you threw at them just say that yes there was some shit but they were not the only ones who got some on them. So what if it was on your hands!  The last rule is the most important. If the media quits bringing you presents and starts depicting you realisticly come out with a statment saying that it’s tasteless and inexcusable making sure they don’t see your guys working on your next smear campaign.

Honestly, I don’t care much for the cartoon either but if Obama wants to run for president then he should be at least as tough as his competition and not expect to be treated like royalty or some spoiled, rich brat that people cow-tow to. In short grow up and deal with it because if he were to ever get elected this is probably mild compared to the attacks he would undoubtably endure as president. If you can’t take the heat….

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Well I don’t know about any of you but I had a decent weekend. It wasn’t too hot here in the high 80’s and low to mid 90’s. Nice but not too hot!

Apparently one of my posts 

https://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/puma-call-to-action-let-the-dnc-know-you-wont-be-supporting-obama-in-november-and-oh-by-the-way-we-wont-be-sending-the-dnc-any-money-either/

was used by Obamabots on Yahoo answers as I had several visits yesterday from there I decided to see what was up. Kind of comical. The comments I mean.

What Will Obama Supporters do If Puma gets their way some how?

This Puma thing where they are pretty much black mailing the DNC to make Hillary the Nominee. I myself don’t think it will change anything. If they did that, I am sure some group that supports Obama would turn around and say the same thing.
But if some how Hillary pulls out an the nominee. How will Obama supporters react? Key word hear is Obama supporters, not Hillary supporters.

PUMA Call to Action; Let the DNC know you won’t be supporting Obama in November and OH, by the way we won’t be sending the DNC any money either https://caffinequeen.wordpress.com/2008/0…

  • 14 hours ago
  • 3 days left to answer.
  • Here’s the link:  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsJVEq9zdJUdgaG75EaSSYTS7BR.;_ylv=3?qid=20080713152431AAUHOKh

    Fricking Bots! I notice some Hillary supporters commenting there too! i’m still composing my own special  response. ;^0

    So they’re calling us blackmailers now! Hmmm! Wait a minute! I thought they said using the word black in any negative context was racism???? I mean if you can’t say black hole, black sheep and black-balled then they should not use such a word as blackmail right? Doesn’t that make them racists by their own standards?? I’m just sayin’!

    Funny how they see our demanding fair treatment for our candidate as extortion isn’t it? So then if things had been the other way around and their candidate had been robbed of rightfully earned delegates, constantly attacked and called a racist, persecuted by the media, and pretty much forced out of the race in spite of a long history in which no other candidate has ever been pushed and strong armed out of their right to compete they would not be demanding fair treatment, respect and the same treatment that every democratic candidate has been granted automatically in the past? They wouldn’t consider that blackmail now would they? The hypocrisy of these people is unprecedented! Apparently, if you drink the kool-ade, all judgement goes out the window and instead is replaced with a perverted sense of justice that only goes in one direction!

    I think I’ll just post a link to this post there instead of respondindg seperately. Unless that could be called racist…..   ;^I

    Whatever!

    CQ

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    Before I get too carried away this morning  I want to give props to a fellow (or sister as the case may be) blogger Madamab who also loves satire and like me seems to be able to sit on ice cream and tell what flavor it is. (That means I’m a smart-ass and sorry Madamab I guess I just called you one too but I meant it in the most sincere and admiring way!)

    There is a link to her latest below. Too funny! Here’s a favorite line or two of mine from this piece. Just to give you a little taste and whet your appetites!

    BRAZILE [faux-fended]: For Pete’s sake, Hillary, what the hell am I doing here? I’m neutral! How could I be guilty? Don’t you know I work for CNN?

    [Brief pause]

    ALL except BRAZILE: HAHAHAHAHA! [BRAZILE glares at everyone, then slowly breaks into a grin and laughs along with them]

    HILLARY [wiping her eyes]: Whew! Thanks for the laugh, Donna. That really broke the ice! [returning to seriousness] Okay, are we ready to get down to business?

    I LOVE IT! And then there’s this:

    OBAMA [offended]: Who, me? Are you kidding? I AM the Democratic Party! I moved the DNC to Chicago! I’m Obama for America! And besides, everyone loves me. Yes, I can!

    HILLARY [unable to keep silent]: Oh, for god’s sake, Barack, you don’t believe your own propaganda, do you? Save it for your deluded worshipers in the blogosphere!

    AXELROD [aside to Obama]: Yeah, Barack. I told you that most of those [makes air quotes with his hands] “anonymous supporters” work for me anyway.

     

    http://oohnuance.blogspot.com/2008/07/who-killed-ole-yeller-play-in-one.html

     
    Sigh! If only we would get to hear Hillary REALLY SAY THIS TO BARKY! Do yourself a favor and check out the rest of the play. Unlike me, Madamab seems to know how to spin a yarn AND keep it short and sweet. I think yours truly could learn a thing or two about that!

    This one is quite a hoot as well. I’ll restrict myself to one quote just because I loved it so much I can’t NOT quote it!

    BOLTEN [jumping in]: Yes, sir, it sure is! Anyway, what the Vice President is saying, is that the Democrats nominated the one guy who couldn’t win this year. The Democratic base doesn’t like him, and he’s managed to piss off a lot of people so much that they started their own movement.

    BUSH: Oh yeah – that PUMA stuff. Can you believe that some morons think those PUMA idiots are Republicans? We wouldn’t stand for that shit in our house, would we Turd Blossom?

    [KKKARL ROVE steps out from behind a curtain.]

    ROVE: No, we sure wouldn’t. The idiots in our party wanted Huckabee. We put a stop to that crap right away.

    I agree with Dick. The Democratic Party won’t win the White House in November. We’ve got our ads all ready to go – we’re just waiting in case the Democrats come to their senses and nominate Hillary.

    HAHAHAHA!!! Here’s the link to the rest. Enjoy! 

    http://oohnuance.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-about-bush-play-in-one-final-act.html

    OOOPS!!! MUST STOP! COFFEE CUP EMPTY! MUST REFILL!

    OK! Emergency avoided! Wheew!

    Now that I’ve got that under control I’ll get back to the point. You will not hear this in the media. You won’t hear it said in public unless it is spoken in hushed wispers. You won’t hear it from the DNC that I absolutely assure you! Having said that I’m going to say what most of us, especially those of us who are PUMAS already know. THIS IS NOT OVER YET!

    The Denver Group   http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/ and PUMAPAC http://blog.pumapac.org/ as well as many other groups are doing everything they can to get Hillary the respect she deserves in Denver by demanding that her name be on the ballot and the traditional Roll Call takes place. If you can do anything to help in any of these efforts please do so. I will also say that if they DON’T GIVE HILLARY THE RESPECT SHE DESERVES AND HAS EARNED there will be a hefty price to pay! We Hillarycrats won’t riot or burn the city or anything as unseemly and immature as that.

    No, instead we will systematicly vote out every Democrat who did not support Hillary, Fair Reflection, the will of the people and the core principals of the Democratic Party! Every Democrat who tried to gloss over the inconvienent reality of the situation and instead tried to force this faux-unity crap down our throats all the while recieving what amounts to the political version of a blowjob (cabinet positions, fundraising ect.)  in exchange for their loyalty to the standard bearer of the “New Marxocratic, ooops, I mean Democratic Party”

    In addition I feel fairly confident that Hillary will take the MI/FL decision to the credentials committee regardless because, hang on Obamabots if you’re listening, because IT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO! Yup! That’s right! Hillary will stand up for those voters who did their civic duty (Some Obama supporters may not know about this as Civics is unforunately no longer taught in school.) and voted their concience for President for which their “reward” was being told that their vote didn’t count or at least didn’t count for as much as everybody else’s votes and oh, by the way since one candidate removed himself from the ballot the RBC decided that the votes that were cast should be altered to reflect votes that weren’t cast! This has to be the most undemocratic, uninspired, and frankly the most unintelligent decisions the party has ever made!

    I think Hillary will fight for them as she has always fought for all of us. I think she will fight for their rights because in spite of all the heat she has taken for it, Hillary has always fought for what is right and fighting for Florida and Michigan to be treated fairly and with respect is what is right.

    So for all those unity pushers who think they can threaten us or smooth us over or better yet try to ignore us think again sweeties, it aint over till it’s over! You cannot win votes with the above mentioned tactics. In fact you are doing the exact opposite. More of us than before say we won’t vote Obama and our numbers continue to grow fueled by his arrogance and that of his supporters. If you think you can win without us then you truly are delusional. There are 18 million of us who know your guy is a fraud, an empty suit, in short a loser.

    Come to your senses people! Delegates! Abort this fary-tale with no chance of fruition that is the Obama Campaign! Back away from the cool-ade before it’s too late! You’re country needs you to do the right thing! Get Hillary Clinton nominated and elected! She can win! We need her! With Obama we are doomed!

    PUMAS know this and they are working behind the scenes and PUMAS are not republicans I assure you. PUMAS are the core of the party, the people who vote and fight to protect us all! PUMAS are smart enough to know that advertising is usually created to attract and distract as in make you think this new thing is just what you need and don’t look at this it’s a work in progress you know, unfinished and all that. Hey looky over here instead!

    PUMAS know real meat (substance) when they see it! Clinton has plenty of subtance and the fortitude to stand when others fall back. (FISA anyone?) She’s the real deal and if she’s not the nominee the party will regret it. Obama will lose and we will have 4 more years of GOP in the Whitehouse. NOT what I or any other democrat wants but at least the devil we know is better than the devil we don’t. I shudder to think about an Obama presidency. What that would do to our country, how many of our rights would he pander away for his own agenda? Would this country even be recognizable? I doubt it. We’d all be wearing brown shirts and jack boots in no time.

    PUMAS UNITE! CAST OUT THE OBAMANITES!

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    It occurs to me this whole primary and the splitting of the Democratic Party, PUMA, Just Say No Deal and all of theresulting chaos caused by the DNC Rules & By-Laws Committee and there erroneous decision on May 31, 2008 are indeed VERY much like a Fairy Tale.

    I see it as a newer, re-spun version of Hansel & Gretel. Let me elaborate. Hopefully my coffee intake will sustain my brain and typing skills this morning.

    Hansel and Gretel were walking through the forest when they came upon a group of lost children who were running from a gingerbread house controlled by a group of Hardcore Repuglicans led by a particularly evil albeit inept and clueless maniac named GW. They had barely escaped with their lives not to mention their legal ability to think and act as individuals!

    They clamored around Hansel and Gretel eager to be lead back to safety and sanity. They wanted to go back to living life as free people again. They wanted to get back to working on improving their lives and the world we live in. They wanted to get back to a time when they felt more in control of their own destiny, their own reputation and the ability of people to speak freely and participate in government.

    They excitedly murmured about having such good fortune! After so many years of searching for someone to lead them who was strong, smart, capable and fierce enough to stand up to GW and the Repugs they had a surplus this time! There were TWO such leaders here to lead them home! Joyful chanting ensued.

    CHILDREN: “NO MORE BUSH! NO MORE BUSH!” (dancing and singing the children all have big smiles)

    GRETEL: “OK! Well I think we all know what has to be done here! I say we turn around right now and go back to our homes! We’ll clean house and return to a better way of life. A more sane and caring way of life without insane wars over oil and policies that favor only the very rich and powerful. I know the way back and I’ve got some great ideas that we could talk about to make things even better for ALL of us!”

    GRETEL: “Folow me! I’ve left a trail of policies and plans that we can use to find our way!”

    HANSEL: “Um, wait a minute! No, I don’t know what she’s talking about! I mean really, Gretel is you know, old school, you know what I mean she uh, she’s just like the Repugs, uh, you know the same ‘ol same ‘ol.”

    HANSEL: “I’M DIFFERENT! I’ve got a different plan. A plan for change and hope! We don’t need a trail of policies to find our way home! That’s the old way of doing things! I intend to lead you on a different path, a path I hope, I mean a path of hope that will get us home! Follow me, let’s CHANGE THE PATH and HOPE for a better tomorrow”

    GRETEL: “Well I think we should all think about this carefully and discuss it. I still think following the existing trail of solid policies is the way to go but I’m willing to explore all the options. Whatever we do we must make decisions wisely or we will not get home and the Repugs will continue to hurt the people! Now Hansel if you have any questions about my policy trail I’ll be more than happy to answer them. Or if you prefer we can discuss this new trail of yours. I have some questions about it.”

    HANSEL: “Well I see no reason to think about it or discuss it! We need HOPE and CHANGE! Thinking about it won’t make it happen! The Repugs are history anyway! People can’t possibly let them be bullies anymore! They’re fed up! They want ARUGULA!”

    HANSEL: “You know folks, Gretel is trying to bamboozle you ‘cuz that’s what she does you know. I mean she’s a sweetie and all but seriously how can she lead us anywhere? I mean, she wants us to follow policies? Facts? I mean what’s next? She’s just old school and by the way did I mention she’ a racist? That’s right! She and all those who follow her too! YUP! She really has no morals you know, she’s a witch, I’ve seen it! She’ll say anything to get you to follow her. Plans! Policies! Who is she kidding right? You guys are the cool kids so your going to follow me right? Who needs Gretel and her policy trail! We’ll make a new trail home! Did I mention I’m half African American and Half Typical White person? Oh yeah and Gretel is White and she’s a GIRL! Can’t trust ’em! That’s what I say! Let’s follow the trail of CHANGE and HOPE for tommorw! Ooops! I mean HOPE for a better tomorrow.”

    GRETEL: “Yes it’s true I am a girl but that does not change the fact that I know a proven path. And I am NOT a racist! I said I’d be happy to answer any of your questions about my trail Hansel! I also have a few about yours. I want to know where is this trail? Where does it lead? Has anybody actually seen it? How will we find it? Is it clearly marked? How can we trust you to lead the way when you had to follow ME to get here in the first place?”

    HANSEL: “Please Gretel! I do not have to answer your questions! I mean you clearly are a racist. I can’t believe you expect me to prove my trail is real or that HOPE and CHANGE are all it really takes to lead! Such a GIRL thing to say! I mean how racist and girly can you get? I’m not even going to talk to you anymore! You mean nothing!”

    HANSEL: “Come on kids! We know who’s cool right? That sweetie Gretel well she should just step aside and let me take us down the path to unity where people like her are no longer allowed to speak! I mean she’s obviously a racist, ex-wife type who will try to enforce nightly toothbrushing and things like that! We want CHANGE and HOPE and oh, yeah ARUGULA!

    Well I’ll have to finish later as I really should be doing something more constructive. I’ll post the updated version when I have time. Enjoy. Comments. Critique. Whatever.

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    Entry for June 06, 2008

    Well folks, I’ve decided that if the DNC does not overturn the illegal decision made at the May 31, 2008 Rules & By-Laws committee I will leave the party.

    Funny, in spite of what Obama supporters think this decision which will be made by many including but not limited to the 18 million Clinton supporters is NOT an act of dis-loyalty to the party. In fact, it is made completely FOR party loyalty!

    You see once upon a time there was this party which stood for equality for all regardless of race, religion, sex, age, economic status, oh, I could go on but I think it’s evident what I mean here and they stood for American Values as laid out by our founding fathers. (Where were the mothers in this? Why weren’t they asked to participate? OK that’s another blog-post. I digress.)

    Those principals can be summed up pretty well with just a few words:

    WE THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE!

    That means ALL the people who PARTICIPATE! It does not mean some of the people, or some votes mean more than others. It does not mean vote counts can be changed to reflect voters that DID NOT VOTE nor does it mean votes can be changed to the candidate a committee decides to favor.

    There is a lot of talk about Obama as the nominee. FACT: he is the “presumptive” nominee! he does not have enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination. Super delegates put him over the top and they can change their votes back and forth as many times as they want to between now and the convention.

    Clinton is suspending her campaign for now but keeping her delegates. She will be here to save the party from itself when Obama implodes as he surely will.

    Meantime, I and many like me who were protesting and screaming COUNT THE VOTES! EVERY VOTE COUNTS! in 2004, and are now screaming COUNT THE VOTES IN 2008 will rest assured, be here in the future when someone uses this decision as precedent to change YOUR VOTE.

    We will still be here screaming COUNT THE VOTES! So go ahead, rest on your laurels Oabma supporters. We will be here to defend your rights, as usual!

    Americans 1st, Democrats 2nd!

    One voice, one vote! Every vote counts!

    THERE CAN BE NO UNITY WITHOUT FAIR REFLECTION!

    PUMA – Party Unity My Ass!

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    Entry for June 01, 2008

    A Sad Day For Democracy

    I watched the entire DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee meeting yesterday on C-Span via the net. It was a really long meeting and the committee also took a really long lunch (2 3/4 hours) and took that little opportunity to meet behind closed doors completely flying in the face of “public hearings” as we were led to believe it would be!

    During this long meeting there were many impassioned speakers. I was quite proud of the truly brilliant statements of some of my fellow democrats. And then there were some who felt more strongly about their agendas than the democratic process itself.

    Now before you start accusing me of partisanship, hear me out. No matter which side of the current fight for the nomination you are on the one side we must ALL remain on is the side of the people. ALL of the people.

    While I am somewhat disappointed in the outcome in Florida I can live with it. It’s fair enough. The GOP also penalized them 50% for the perceived “high crime of timing” and they did allocate the delegates according to the vote as cast with each vote counting as half. I can live with that. I suspect most people can live with that. Not ecstatic but I can deal.

    The thing that completely flies in the face of all that democracy stands for is the farce of a decision in regards to Michigan. Seated delegates with 1/2 vote as in Florida but here’s the kicker!

    They decided first of all to award all the “uncommitted” votes to Obama even though it’s clearly in violation of party rules. Uncommitted is a legitimate option for presidential preferences by the very rules these folks claim to be perverting, er, I mean following. (Freudian slip) There was quite an argument on this as how do you determine who those votes were cast for?

    During the days before the Michigan primaries it’s a well known fact that both Barrak Obama and John Edwards, having removed their names from the ballot, had large grass roots campaigns urging people to vote “uncommitted” in support of them. Michigan law prohibits write in votes unless a candidate agrees to such in writing ahead of time. They could not do this as they had already removed their names and doing so would be in effect putting them back on the ballot albeit, unofficially. (BTW Doesn’t THIS constitute advertising? Wasn’t the rule NO advertising in MI? Just sayin’!)

    This point was actually used in the meeting as a rationale for giving the votes to Obama. Flawed. Obviously, some of those votes would have been for Edwards and some could really have been for “uncommitted”. The point is we have no real way of knowing what the intent of those voters was. In the past in accordance with PARTY RULES we have sent all uncommitted delegates to the convention as such. They are free to vote as they see fit at the convention like super delegates. I’ll get to the other part of their flawed argument shortly as it is the same flawed reasoning they used for the next travesty.

    The next completely “bone-headed” thing they did (Hmmm…. heard that phrase somewhere before) was to decide between three options on the issue of allocating the delegates.

    1. Fully reflect the actual vote count (giving the uncommitted votes to Obama because he took his name off the ballot)73 Clinton 55 Obama

    2. Split delegates 50/50

    3. 69 Clinton 59 Obama

    WHAT? What’s wrong with allocating them as they were cast?

    Here is the argument(s) put forth by committee members supporting Obama.

    We have to consider the will of the voters who didn’t vote as well as those who have? WHAT? Since when have we counted votes that were NOT cast? Even if you could how do you determine who those people would have voted for? What’s the magic formula for that one? (I thought the way it worked is if you don’t vote you can’t bitch because you chose NOT to make your voice heard. Am I wrong?)

    The argument was that if the primary had not been flawed and people had known their votes would count many more would have voted. OK I can buy that but how do they decide that those votes would be for Obama? Again we are supposed to read the minds of voters who were not serious enough to get off their you-know-whats and vote.

    Also they want us to consider the 30,000 write in votes that were not considered or even looked at according to the very people making this argument. They were not counted and no one knows exactly who they were for because of it yet, they say that “most of those 30,000 votes we’re certain were for Obama.” Um, if you didn’t examine them and didn’t count them how are you “certain” they were cast for Obama?

    Not to mention the fact the as mentioned above the voters know that write in votes would not count by Michigan law. So they were now claiming to be all about rules and in the same breath going against them. Oh, they said, the voters didn’t know that at the time. Is it not in the voter’s pamphlet? Oh, I get it we can’t expect them to read the pamphlet. Just like we couldn’t expect people to come out and vote. They can just stay home and let the DNC decide who they voted for!

    So in reward for doing their patriotic duty by getting to the polls and actually, gasp, voting, the DNC committee voted to take away 4 delegates earned by Clinton (YES, I said earned as in real voters voted for her and didn’t stay home!) and giving them to the Obama campaign because you know, he really deserves it. I mean if people who had supported him had actually come out to vote…and if he hadn’t pulled his name off the ballot and decided not to bother competing there…and, and..well you get the picture.

    So this is what we have come to? As Harold Ickes said so eloquently “That’s what I call democracy!” If you did not see the meeting or any of the snippets on the news go to youtube and check out the video of Harold talking about democracy and fair reflection a true and loyal champion of the voters he is!

    In 2004 every democrat I know was screaming “COUNT THE VOTES” from the rooftops yet here we are in 2008 and we actually have Party leaders, the DNC Rules & By-laws Committee no less, VOTING NOT TO COUNT VOTES! Actual democrats arguing to change the actual will of the voters!

    You cannot give delegates earned by one candidate to another. You cannot use “judgment” to discern the will of “uncommitted” votes and you cannot discern the will of votes that were not ever cast!

    I have been a democrat since before I could actually vote. If this is not righted and the DNC is going to start substituting their judgment for the will of the people I will change my party! I have given a lot to the dems but if the corrupt forces within cannot be contained I and many others like me will be affiliating ourselves with a party that can adhere to it’s own rules and to democracy! I don’t want a republican in office but if they continue to shove this sub-par candidate for the nominee that is exactly what will happen!

    It’s far from over! I love my party and I will fight for it! The credentials committee has the ball in their court now! Denver here we come! Democrats must stand for democracy! If this party has been hi-jacked so severely by far left opportunists that they cannot solve this dilemma I and many others like me will vote independent or even gasp, republican. (Not sure I could go as far as becoming GOP but it will have the same effect in the end.)

    I’m sick of people screaming about party unity and in the same breath they want to distort the will of the voters! What they really mean is shut up and go along with what we want! Let’s be one big happy family, the family that takes one for the team. It’s ONLY democracy! Shut up and unify! WE already TOLD you who you voted for! Besides, YOU’RE opinions don’t matter! WE have NEW VOTERS! UNITY! SHUT UP! UNITY!

    This is really all about affirmative action isn’t it? I mean affirmative action has it’s place. It is meant to give opportunities to those who otherwise might not get them however when it comes to the commander in chief I want the job to go to the person most qualified. Not the one who we “gave an opportunity” to because we feel guilty about our past history or because poor Barrak didn’t get a fair chance because his name wasn’t on the ballot and to know him is to love him so he’s sure those who didn’t show up to vote were either supporters being “kept down by the man” or people who just didn’t get a chance to know him yet. If they had they would have voted for him.

    If they are really so sure their guy is the winner then why try so hard to distort the vote? Why if Hillary is really dead, done, toast as the media keeps telling us why can’t he close the deal? If he’s so qualified why do they keep changing rules and stifling democracy? Can’t he win on his own merits? Do we really need a nominee who needs to be given preferential treatment in order to win? One who constantly tries to push his opponent from the race rather than just try beating her in good old fashioned competition? Do we think other countries will cut him the same slack if he were to get elected?

    COME ON! Democrats should NEVER allow the actual votes and the will of the voters to be changed! It is what it is! That’s what voting is about! It’s called DEMOCRACY! Let’s all try it!

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